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Old 09-15-2005, 06:35 PM
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Default 10/20 blind defense round 4, part3 - K8o

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (5 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero...

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Old 09-16-2005, 07:05 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 blind defense round 4, part3 - K8o

I call, and fold turn unless a K or T hits.
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Old 09-16-2005, 07:16 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 blind defense round 4, part3 - K8o

seems like an easy fold to me.
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Old 09-16-2005, 07:30 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 blind defense round 4, part3 - K8o

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Old 09-16-2005, 07:49 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 blind defense round 4, part3 - K8o

fold, sometimes call with the intention of raising the turn depending on specifics.
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Old 09-16-2005, 08:56 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 blind defense round 4, part3 - K8o

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seems like an easy fold to me.

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Your idea is that he will have any of the top2 pair most of the time? Not saying you are wrong but VPIP 50 and AF 1.3 is pretty LAG.
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Old 09-16-2005, 09:19 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 blind defense round 4, part3 - K8o

I fold.
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Old 09-16-2005, 09:41 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 blind defense round 4, part3 - K8o

I realize he has a wide range, but still K-high needs to improve to take to a sd against this opponent. 6 pair outs discounted to 3-4 since 8 is middle pair and 8 or K may bring straight, plus 1 out for backdoor straight. ~4-5 outs getting 8-1. I suppose its a little closer than I thought but I still feel its a fold.
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Old 09-16-2005, 09:44 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 blind defense round 4, part3 - K8o

Surf, thanks for posting these "routine" sorts of hands. I think a lot of people don't think about these flop peels as deeply as they should. I think this hand should be a fold, but I don't think there is any real problem with peeling if he'd checkraise with any pair/any draw.
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Old 09-16-2005, 09:52 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 blind defense round 4, part3 - K8o

One more thing. If you are calling this flop you shouldn't be folding if an 8 comes on the turn IMO.
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