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Old 12-30-2005, 02:34 AM
revlis87 revlis87 is offline
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Default bottom 2 pair flop fold?

2nd orbit, not a lot in the way of reads - player in question is a regular. party 10-20.


Hero is in the SB with 10 3 and 2000. Villian covers. Short stack had 400 or so.

shorty limps utg, MP limps as well, i complete the SB and BB checks.

Flop J 10 3. i lead for 50, shorty calls, regular raises to 200 i make it 650 shorty pushes, as does MP for all his chips. My move?

Oh, and i dont think regular is playing anything like Q J or K J this way. A J POSSIBLY.
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:35 AM
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Default Re: bottom 2 pair flop fold?

without a read, i'm laying this bad boy down.
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:37 AM
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Default Re: bottom 2 pair flop fold?

this would be a donk call spectacular
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:56 AM
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Default Re: bottom 2 pair flop fold?

after you bet the flop and were flat called, he raised. that equals strength.

after you made a big reraise and were called, he reraised again. that equals more stength. more than AJ.

i would mutter and curse to myself, then lay it down.
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Old 12-30-2005, 04:41 AM
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Default Re: bottom 2 pair flop fold?

Smells like JT or perhaps does regular limp JJ often? Either way it's an easy fold.
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Old 12-30-2005, 05:26 AM
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BTW completing with 10-3? I don't see that as +EV.
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Old 12-30-2005, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: bottom 2 pair flop fold?

fold.

I like the flop bet and the reraise, b/c it makes it obvious that you are very strong. Then you can fold when the regular kicks sand in your face anyway.
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Old 12-30-2005, 09:27 PM
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Default Re: bottom 2 pair flop fold?

No offense, but playing T3 in the SB...hitting a miracle 2 pair and still losing 1/3 of a stack (assuming you folded...or your whole stack if you called)...serves you right. How could anyone playing those stakes think completing with T3 in the SB could be +EV?
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Old 12-30-2005, 10:56 PM
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This flop is rainbow?
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Old 12-30-2005, 11:28 PM
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Default Re: bottom 2 pair flop fold?

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No offense, but playing T3 in the SB...hitting a miracle 2 pair and still losing 1/3 of a stack (assuming you folded...or your whole stack if you called)...serves you right. How could anyone playing those stakes think completing with T3 in the SB could be +EV?

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It's not too bad if they're soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooted.
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