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Old 06-03-2005, 09:21 AM
shadyridr shadyridr is offline
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Default Someone\'s gotta be fired on the Yanks

Either Cashman or Stottlemyre. Actually, in a prefect world it would be Steinbrenner but that's not gonna happen. This team has become a laughing stock. Some great moves this offseason: signing one year wonders Pavano & Wright, trading proven young stud who had 1 rough half due to shoulder tightness in Vazquez for a 41 year old (who we then extended for 3 years), also trading in that deal a young catcher and Brad Halsey who has an ERA under 3.00, letting Leiber go. Our best pitcher is Chien Ming-Wang for God sakes.
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Old 06-03-2005, 09:35 AM
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What input did Stottlemyre have on any of these moves ? And did you feel the same way about the Johnson trade when it was completed back in December ?
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Old 06-03-2005, 09:36 AM
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What input did Stottlemyre have on any of these moves ? And did you feel the same way about the Johnson trade when it was completed back in December ?

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I wasn't on this board yet so I guess you'll just have to trust me but I told everyone I liked Vazquez and didnt want to deal him. If they couldve gotten Johnson another way I wouldnt have minded but I know that was not possible. I did not like the deal at all.
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Old 06-03-2005, 09:46 AM
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I agree with you. Anytime you trade a 28 year old pitcher for a 41 year old plus throw in 2 prospects it is a dangerous move. But it cracks me up when I hear all these media types rip the Yankees for the trade and back when the trade was made the general consensus was that the Johnson trade would assure the Yanks the World Series this year. Speaking of bad moves, I'd rather have Miguel Cairo instead of Tony Womack and letting Jon Leiber go was a mistake.
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Old 06-03-2005, 10:08 AM
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Speaking of bad moves, I'd rather have Miguel Cairo instead of Tony Womack

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When they did this move I hated it and wouldve agreed with you but I think now it was the right move. Womack adds a dimension you just cant get with Cairo in speed.
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Old 06-03-2005, 11:42 AM
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Womack adds a dimension you just cant get with Cairo in speed.

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I know Womack is fast, but is he really that much faster or aggressive on the basepaths than Cairo?

The stats say: "not really":

Womack: 16SB (188 AB, .310 OBP)
Cairo: 7SB (88 AB, .333 OBP)

Cairo > Womack.
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Old 06-03-2005, 11:45 AM
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Speaking of bad moves, I'd rather have Miguel Cairo instead of Tony Womack

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When they did this move I hated it and wouldve agreed with you but I think now it was the right move. Womack adds a dimension you just cant get with Cairo in speed.

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Cairo adds a dimension you just can't get with Womack, in talent.
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Old 06-03-2005, 09:38 AM
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How about firing Womack, Williams and Giambi? That'd be a start.

Oh, wait, no better options in the farm system, no prospects to trade, huge bloated contracts.

Have fun!
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Old 06-03-2005, 10:06 AM
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How about firing Womack, Williams and Giambi? That'd be a start.

Oh, wait, no better options in the farm system, no prospects to trade, huge bloated contracts.

Have fun!

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Womack misplayed an easy line drive yesterday in LF. Womack should be moved back to 2B, Williams to LF, and Cano back to the minors. I like Cano but he's a rookie and needs some more developmental time.
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Old 06-03-2005, 10:22 AM
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How about firing Womack, Williams and Giambi? That'd be a start.

Oh, wait, no better options in the farm system, no prospects to trade, huge bloated contracts.

Have fun!

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Womack misplayed an easy line drive yesterday in LF. Womack should be moved back to 2B, Williams to LF, and Cano back to the minors. I like Cano but he's a rookie and needs some more developmental time.

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Womack should not be starting over Cano.
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