$22 - Yes, I'm trying to steal your blind.

wiggs73 · #1 11-16-2005, 08:18 PM

Here's a situation that comes up pretty frequently. I have a hand and a stack such that if blinds were one or two levels higher, I'd definitely push from the SB. With blinds at 50-100, is it worth it for me now to push now though? ICM would probably help a lot with this if someone wouldn't mind running it through for me.

Edit: These stacks are before posting.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

CO (t269)
Button (t691)
Hero (t1033)
BB (t1193)
UTG (t1724)
MP1 (t1415)
MP2 (t1675)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>

tigerite · #2 11-16-2005, 08:18 PM

Yes, this is usually a push, I'd say.

Exitonly · #3 11-16-2005, 08:59 PM

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Freudian · #4 11-16-2005, 08:21 PM

This is a push or a fold for me, depending on the other player. At the $22s I'd guess I would fold this 50% and push 50%.

wiggs73 · #5 11-16-2005, 08:22 PM

Yes, I wasn't considering making a raise smaller than a push.

ace_in_the_hole · #6 11-16-2005, 08:24 PM

Given the barely above 10bb chipstack I might complete in this spot and see a flop. How horrible is that play?

wiggs73 · #7 11-16-2005, 08:25 PM

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I like it. I actually don't know why I didn't think to do this during the hand.

tigerite · #8 11-16-2005, 08:26 PM

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Given the barely above 10bb chipstack I might complete in this spot and see a flop. How horrible is that play?

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If it's me in the BB, pretty horrible. I'm shoving 72o if you do that.

wiggs73 · #9 11-16-2005, 08:28 PM

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If it's me in the BB, pretty horrible. I'm shoving 72o if you do that.

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Yeah, but most people aren't 2+2ers though (and at the $22s don't know how to play SNGs in general). I'll often do this anyway around this juncture in an SNG just to see how the BB responds.

tewall · #10 11-17-2005, 02:03 AM

It's not a bad idea, but I see some pitfalls. You're right on the cusp as to when you should start shoving. You can afford to be conservative if you want. But K2 suited is a nice hand to get all-in with, as it will be difficult to play after the flop. It's a high card with worst possible kicker, and a drawing hand which would like to see all cards, both of which argue for getting all-in.