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Old 09-21-2005, 07:41 PM
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I guess you have no knowledge of how the Iraq elections were run ... figures.

Do you honestly think that with everything at stake, and all the contracts and money at risk, Bush just rolled the dice and *prayed* they would elect the right guy?
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Old 09-21-2005, 09:21 PM
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I guess you have no knowledge of how the Iraq elections were run ... figures.

Do you honestly think that with everything at stake, and all the contracts and money at risk, Bush just rolled the dice and *prayed* they would elect the right guy?
hahahahahahaha!

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According to your description elsewhere in this thread, the Iraqi people had no idea for whom they were voting; they didn't know the candidates prior to the election; and in some places just voted for numbers instead of for names.

So, according to YOUR OWN description, they just rolled the dice. Hard to believe Bush has powers of telekinesis strong enough to control a craps throw halfway across the world.
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Old 09-21-2005, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: The President of Iraq\'s Message to Americans

And who was the boxman calling the roll?
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:34 PM
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leaders whose commitment of troops to enforce U.N. Security Council resolutions liberated Iraq.

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He makes the decision to invade sound so courageous, but after gassing Hans Blix upon discovering the nuclear stockpile, we really had no choice.
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Old 09-21-2005, 08:05 PM
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Above all, American forces provide Iraq with a much-needed deterrence capability. In the past, Iraq sought an illusory security through the follies of aggression, terrorism and weapons of mass destruction. Today, our external security comes from our alliance with the United States. Our neighbors can thereby be assured that we will settle all of our differences with them peacefully.

Sadly, some of our neighbors have chosen not to understand this. They seem either unwilling or unable to shut off the pipeline of terrorists crossing into Iraq. And in addition to what is at least passive support for the terrorists, some of them are providing financial and material support to them, too. They must desist from this behavior now.

While the problem of some of our neighbors supporting terrorism is bad enough, we can only imagine what our neighbors might have done if American troops had not been present. Most likely, Iraq would have been transformed into a regional battlefield with disastrous consequences for Middle Eastern and global security.

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Most of this article is just yadda, yadda, yadda. But I think this part is very interesting. The line wbetween the war against the insurgency and a Shiite war against the Sunnis in Iraq will likely get increasingly blurry over the next year. And the stances of both Iran and the Sunni nations surrounding Iraq will be very interesting to see.
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Old 09-21-2005, 08:09 PM
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It'll soon get to the point where responses to neo-con claptrap will be numbered - and neo-con claptrap shall be dispensed with instructions to go look up the appropriate number.

Here's your number:

Talabani is completely correct in what he says, in the article. FOR HIS PEOPLE!

Talabani is a tribal leader, and a worthy leader too, as far as the tribe's interests are concerned. The interests of the Kurds, at this point in History, happen to coincide completely with the American interests in Iraq.

The Kurds have been persecuted by the Turks for decades. Once upon a time (and for a long time!) the Kurds were targeting Americans in Turkey because the US had allied itself totally with Ankara's fight against Kurdish separatism. Washington had even declared officially that most Kurdish independence military movements were terrorist.

Those days are gone. Ankara refused entry to US troops to invade Iraq from the north. The Kurds, long persecuted also by Saddam Hussein's Iraq, and ethnically cleansed from many northern areas, have helped the American troops enormously. There must not be practically a single Kurd among the insurgents in Iraq! And the prospetcs of a federalised, power-sharing Iraq is a God-sent for Kurds -- it will be the first step ever taken towards Kurdish autonomy, even if within another state.

Therefore, Talabani, a Kurd who made president (something unthinkable before the Americans were to invade!), is saying all the right things to the American people. What he says is correct. What he says is entirely to the interests of his people.

Remains to be seen whether or not what Talabani wants ("Americans, please don't leave!") is to the interests of the United States. Don't touch that dial.
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Old 09-22-2005, 03:15 AM
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So the appointed president of Iraq wants American troops to stay in his country to help him kill his opposition? What a surprise.
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Old 09-22-2005, 03:45 AM
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So the elected president of Iraq wants American troops to stay in his country to help him kill his opposition? What a surprise.

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