how weak was this play?

lighterjobs · #1 10-13-2005, 06:17 PM

haven't played on pokerstars in a long time but put some of my eurobet money in the other day. don't know anything about stars players, and i just sat down.

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 raises, CO calls, Hero calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
MP2 checks, MP3 bets, CO folds, Hero raises, MP2 folds, MP3 3-bets, Hero calls.

should i have capped it?

Turn: (7.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP3 bets, Hero calls.

was this a weak call?

River: (9.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 11.75 BB

alul · #2 10-13-2005, 07:39 PM

I think, you played the hand fine. Capping flop is silly IMO. He can have a bigger PP. On the turn you have 10 outs to the probable nuts (although a heart may give him flush, so even if we discount 2 outs, you still have 8). You need 1:6 to call having 8 outs, the pot lays you almost 1:9. So it's a definite call. The river is standard. NH.

JacksonTens · #3 10-13-2005, 08:31 PM

My first look at the flop and the whole hand was 'what the hell', but then I realised I liked it, I liked it alot. I'd almost give you a....Standard
[thats seems like the SS Compliment]

JT [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

#4 10-13-2005, 08:33 PM

Am I the only nit who folds preflop here?

Borodog · #5 10-13-2005, 08:56 PM

I fold too, unless the blinds are loose.

BigBrother · #6 10-13-2005, 09:00 PM

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Flop: (9.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
MP2 checks, MP3 bets, CO folds, Hero raises, MP2 folds, MP3 3-bets, Hero calls.

should i have capped it?

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Doesn't capping this flop set you up to lose 2BB's on the turn when you get check-raised by an overpair? Or is your plan to fold to the check-raise and hope to fold villain out of his overcards so they don't get to see the river?

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Turn: (7.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP3 bets, Hero calls.

was this a weak call?

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Looks like you have odds despite the double-flush draw, so it's not a loose call. You are good enough of the time here that I don't hate a raise, but the flush possibilities make it less likely for you to fold out overcards, and he may be more likely to think you are FOS and 3-bet if he has you beat.

Note: I am very rarely cold-calling with 66-22 in LP expecting 4 opponents (I assume you thought one of the blinds would come along). I'd prefer to have another limper or cc'er in front before I commit to this pot.

@bsolute_luck · #7 10-14-2005, 07:42 AM

if cold calling this preflop is standard, then i have something wrong with my game.

Gazzbut · #8 10-14-2005, 09:04 AM

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Am I the only nit who folds preflop here?

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Nope! I fold too.

#9 10-14-2005, 09:56 AM

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Am I the only nit who folds preflop here?

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Nope! I fold too.

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I don't "like" the pre-flop call, but I would have done it, too. I mean, who likes cold-calling two bets this hand?

EDIT: I believe SSHE recommends it, too, now that I think of it.

Mister Z · #10 10-14-2005, 10:19 AM

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Am I the only nit who folds preflop here?

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Both SSH and HEFAP recommend calling a raise PF as long as there are at least 1-2 other callers after the raiser. I would feel better about this call if there were 2 callers between me and the raiser, but in a typical 3/6 game I think this is a fine call.