AKo - waiting until the turn...

meep_42 · #1 10-31-2005, 03:30 AM

That Commerce 9/18 is a good, fun game. I recommend trying it out, if you don't sit at my table.

Table has turned aggressive, and my pre-flop action gets little respect. I'm not sure if it's just me or everyone, but there are some big LAGs at the table, and a couple people who love to call down all the raises.

UTG+1 is decent, but a bit fishy. More passive than the good players at this level, but he's not too passive to not take shots when he feels it's appropriate.

Hijack has been coldcalling me all day long, generally passive, will bet when checked to and raise when he thinks his hand is best. I haven't seen him caught bluffing.

Button is a LAG, bets/raises with any piece/draw usually, especially when he's got the lead in a hand.

BB is a call station, harly raises ever.

I'm in MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

UTG+1 raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, Hijack calls, Button calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 6 players, 18.5 SB - A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, Hijack calls, Button folds, BB calls.

Turn: 5 players, 11.75 BB - 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises...

Easy, right?

-d

sean c · #2 10-31-2005, 11:53 AM

My only fear with waiting is that UTG+1 might check the turn if he was betting a draw or something. I guess it doesn't really matter because your facing the field with roughly 10:1 odds if you raise the flop or bet the turn if checked to so maybe it's no big deal. I just think given the chance to face the field with two cold is tough to pass on.

sfer · #3 10-31-2005, 11:55 AM

Meh

toss · #4 10-31-2005, 11:57 AM

I don't really get waiting for the turn here. Our we waiting one street so we can better protect our hands? We can't protect against a flush draw. I'd raise the flop and further bloat the pot.

Gazzbut · #5 10-31-2005, 12:10 PM

Doesnt the turn raise protect against the gutshot though?

toss · #6 10-31-2005, 12:28 PM

Its less likely they'll hold a 3 or 4 in their hands with the Preflop action.

pudley4 · #7 10-31-2005, 04:54 PM

How aggressive are hijack and button? You say they'll bet if they have the lead, think they're ahead, or when checked to.

Will this line work:

Raise flop (they'll both call 2, right). Now, the turn will be checked to you (since the first 2 opps are unknown/passive), so you check. One of the two behind you will think his A is good, or he'll bet his draw, or his middle pair. Now you checkraise.

jason_t · #8 10-31-2005, 05:28 PM

Raise the flop, please.

DMBFan23 · #9 10-31-2005, 05:35 PM

this looks like it's straight out of HPFAP, I'm curious what people hate.

jason_t · #10 10-31-2005, 05:36 PM

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this looks like it's straight out of HPFAP, I'm curious what people hate.

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Reference please?