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Old 12-07-2005, 08:26 PM
Rvr_B_Good Rvr_B_Good is offline
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Default the \"any Ace\" theory

i've noticed more and more players playing Ax (specifically 6-9)and they seem to win more than they lose. any threads out there that talk about the numbers behind playing Ax?

just curious
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:42 PM
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Default Re: the \"any Ace\" theory

What position, against what hand, etc...

Be more specific please
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Old 12-07-2005, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: the \"any Ace\" theory

Do yourself a favor...ignore the stories and see for yourself:

PokerRoom.com Look for "Hand EV chart"

Look at all the ace-rags and you tell me which ones can
make money.

-ZEN
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Old 12-07-2005, 09:46 PM
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Default Re: the \"any Ace\" theory

The chart of which you speak:

http://www.pokerroom.com/games/evsta...php?order=card
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Old 12-07-2005, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: the \"any Ace\" theory

Whats interesting in how people are breaking even A2s and doing better with A3s and A4s. Who're the A3 A4 people taking money from? The A2 people on a flop of A24? I figured the straight possibility would help offset the slightly lower kicker(which is basically no kicker)

In the same EV range of A2s is K7s and T8s. Hrm...
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:11 PM
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Default Re: the \"any Ace\" theory

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I figured the straight possibility would help offset the slightly lower kicker(which is basically no kicker)

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Just thought I'd pick on you here and say that A2 doesn't have more straight possibilities than A3 and A4 [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:34 PM
ZenMusician ZenMusician is offline
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Default Re: the \"any Ace\" theory

Oh yes it does!!

For example: KA234, QKA23....

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Old 12-07-2005, 11:27 PM
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Default Re: the \"any Ace\" theory

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Oh yes it does!!

For example: KA234, QKA23....

-ZEN

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You forgot JQKA2 that's the best one [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 12-07-2005, 11:29 PM
AaronBrown AaronBrown is offline
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Default Re: the \"any Ace\" theory

This isn't much of a theory. The trouble with Ax is that there is a very good chance someone is playing Ax+1 or better. A8o wins only 24% of the time against A9o. If it does win, it's likely with a pair of 8's, which is likely to lose to someone else. If you think someone else is in the hand with an Ace and a higher kicker, it almost never makes sense to play. Not only are you unlikely to win, but if an Ace shows up on the board you can lose a lot of money.

If you knew none of the other players was holding an Ace, A2 would be a nice hand. But you don't.
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Old 12-08-2005, 01:07 AM
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Default I\'m curious.

When choosing your screenname did you give any consideration to:

A K Q J . . . T

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(I REALLY need to get a life).
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