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Old 12-29-2005, 12:39 AM
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Default AJ, too weak?

just sat down, so no read yet. now that i think about it he probably had me dominated, should i just fold to his preflop reraise? it's also possible he thought i was stealing with air though.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (9.00 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero folds, SB folds.

Final Pot: 5.00 BB.
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Old 12-29-2005, 01:31 AM
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Default Re: AJ, too weak?

you cant be serious about folding pf, can you?

even if bb is a rock you can peel the flop with your pair outs and backdoor draws
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Old 12-29-2005, 01:53 AM
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Default Re: AJ, too weak?

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should i just fold to his preflop reraise?

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Like never ever do this. Ever

I'm peeling the flop. BB 3-betting range is large here. You're outs are certainly good 2/3 of the time. Plus you have some extras.
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Old 12-29-2005, 02:04 AM
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Default Re: AJ, too weak?

You have a strong hand with good position, I would call the 3-bet or cap.

I would at least call the flop, maybe raise.
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Old 12-29-2005, 02:35 AM
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Default Re: AJ, too weak?

should i fold the turn UI?

i'm not sure about the "ever" btw. if BB was a known rock i think an exception could be made. if so, on the flop i'm drawing to 6 outs, less if he has me dominated.
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Old 12-29-2005, 02:37 AM
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Default Re: AJ, too weak?

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should i fold the turn UI?

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Yes, but you improve a lot. A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is enough so is a T. I'd have to think about a 7. That's closer.
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Old 12-29-2005, 04:20 AM
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on what kind of flop is a fold acceptable?
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Old 12-29-2005, 09:56 PM
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on what kind of flop is a fold acceptable?

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Kxx and Qxx in general. Obviously, some of those flops you'd peel because you have a draw. There are probably some other boards too. Like a monotone [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] flop would generally chase me.
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Old 12-30-2005, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: AJ, too weak?

FLOP: Overcards: 3 outs; BD Flush to Jack high: 1 out; BD straight: 1 out. Total 5 outs. I think it's a pretty easy call getting 9:1 before implied odds.
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Old 12-30-2005, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: AJ, too weak?

I agree, don't think you can ever fold this PF. You're getting 7 to 1, and almost always 8 to 1 with the SB behind you. That, combined with position and the fact that you raised from a steal position, means you have to call here every single time. The odds alone are enough to compensate for being dominated.

A peel on the flop looks good.
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