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Old 12-27-2005, 01:35 PM
Jester999 Jester999 is offline
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Default 1/2 $200 Max, full ring Live with Middle Set

Played this last night and just have one question about flop play because of stack sizes. We've played an orbit and the game is starting off slow as usual. Lots of limping and no raising preflop. So everyone involved has just about $200.

I pick up black 10s UTG and make it $12 straight. My friend reraises another $15. I've played tons of hands with this guy and we know how each other plays. This means he's got one of 5 hands: AA, KK, QQ, JJ, or AK. The button calls, the big blind calls, and I call. $108 in the pot.

Flop comes:
Kh 10h 7d.

The BB checks. I know my friend will bet AA, AK. I think it's 50/50 whether he bets KK, QQ, JJ.

Do I bet the pot $100 (about half of what I have left), go for a check raise and risk a free card, or just move in?

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Old 12-27-2005, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 $200 Max, full ring Live with Middle Set

I'd limp here, nonetheless...

What will he think you have if you bet this flop. Would you do the same thing with AK, or KQ? The only hand you can fear drawing here is JQ. So I'd check the flop and call a bet and look to move my money in on the turn or river.
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 $200 Max, full ring Live with Middle Set

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I'd limp here, nonetheless...

What will he think you have if you bet this flop. Would you do the same thing with AK, or KQ? The only hand you can fear drawing here is JQ. So I'd check the flop and call a bet and look to move my money in on the turn or river.

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In this game I limp 99, 10 10 from this position about 50/50. As the game gets deeper and more aggressive after guys drink I'm inclinded to limp, but with the tight table conditions I chose to raise.

I'd play AA, AK, or a huge hand (KK, 10 10)with a big bet on the flop and he knows this.
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Old 12-27-2005, 03:40 PM
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Bet half the pot. You're not giving a free card and he will push with a number of holdings. Make it look like a stopper bet with a good draw.
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Old 12-27-2005, 04:00 PM
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Youre friend needs to stop making such gay reraises
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Old 12-27-2005, 08:20 PM
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Youre friend needs to stop making such gay reraises

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While your suggestion is 'badass' I happen to like his 'gay raises'. He's cheaply defining his hand. I may give him a Christmas gift next year.
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Old 12-28-2005, 02:13 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 $200 Max, full ring Live with Middle Set

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Youre friend needs to stop making such gay reraises

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While your suggestion is 'badass' I happen to like his 'gay raises'. He's cheaply defining his hand. I may give him a Christmas gift next year.

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Defining your hand is quite a silly and pointless concept. Does a barely less than minimum raise actually define anything to you? Or does it reveal things to your opponent? Stop turning your hands into 72o.
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Old 12-28-2005, 02:10 PM
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Defining your hand is quite a silly and pointless concept. Does a barely less than minimum raise actually define anything to you? Or does it reveal things to your opponent? Stop turning your hands into 72o.

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Does anyone else agree with this? It seems to me when I can put my buddy on a narrow range of hands that's a good thing, no?
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Old 12-28-2005, 02:12 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 $200 Max, full ring Live with Middle Set

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Defining your hand is quite a silly and pointless concept. Does a barely less than minimum raise actually define anything to you? Or does it reveal things to your opponent? Stop turning your hands into 72o.

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Does anyone else agree with this? It seems to me when I can put my buddy on a narrow range of hands that's a good thing, no?

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I think their point is good for you bad for him. and if you are a true buddy, you would tell him his flaw.
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Old 12-28-2005, 03:14 PM
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...He's cheaply defining his hand...

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Defining your hand is quite a silly and pointless concept...

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