Set of 3s at NL400

I don't mind the flop, considering the board and your position. I am also pushing this turn and calling this river.

Dumle

[beset7]

I would almost always bet the flop.

But, if I did check, I'd push AI on the turn when I got raised.

I don't see how you can fold the river given the way you played it. You can't disguise the strength of your hand and then fold to aggression. If you are going to fold this river you should most definitely be betting the flop in spots like this.

[Big_Jim]

PFR may not have expected 3 people to call, and is less likely to continuation bet with air.

Board is ridiculously draw heavy, and lots of hands can call you.

You know it and I know it, this is not the spot to go for the check/raise on the flop.

Since you did, you should push the turn.

Edit: Oh yeah, and call river. Lotsa two pair hands could be out there, and not too many guys would semi-bluff with a flush draw after checking the flop.

Board is ridiculously draw heavy, and lots of hands can call you.

On the other hand, that board may very well have hit PFR. Perhaps it tilts in the draw-heavy direction, though.

Dumle

[kongo_totte]

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On the other hand, that board may very well have hit PFR.


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And you should not pot the flop because? If he can lay down TPTK, good for him.

[yvesaint]

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On the other hand, that board may very well have hit PFR.


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And you should not pot the flop because? If he can lay down TPTK, good for him.

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he wants to trap people inbetween him and the pfr. best-case scenario, pfr bets near pot, 2 limpers call, then he can jack it up.

if you have a good read that he'll bet this flop even multiway, this is fine, but id still prefer betting here. oh, and call the river, this is some turned 2-pair as often as AT

[Hattifnatt]

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Board is ridiculously draw heavy, and lots of hands can call you.

On the other hand, that board may very well have hit PFR. Perhaps it tilts in the draw-heavy direction, though.

Dumle

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That was my thought. + That if that PFR bets his KK, AQ, or something like that someone of the 3 ppl behind us might very well have a straight or flushdraw and call (or raise) him and I can come over the top.

But I guess the "draw heavyness" is just making it even more important to bet the set. This is something like 3rd time (well..) in 4 month I check a set first to speak, really loves leading with them (esp. into a PFR).

As I played I cannot see that I didnt push the turn though. I still pretty confident with my river fold though because he bet pretty fast and didnt seem afraid I had the spades so I dont think he had 2 pair or worse. Might I should had called anyway because of the odds though...

[Sephus]

one reason he might not be afraid of spades is why the hell would you check the river with a flush?

i think you have to call the river. you are behind 50% at least i think but win often enough to make a profit.

[Hattifnatt]

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i think you have to call the river. you are behind 50% at least i think but win often enough to make a profit.

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In retrospect I think that too. My reasoning was that I thoguht he would bet the flop with a "hit" talking last (with that draw heavy board) and therefor I was pretty sure he filled the gutshot. I also beleived I didnt want to blow $360 on my "stupid" flop check (which OF COURSE is idiotic reasoning) so I folded...

[pokerjoker]

lead flop,
as played push river