Explain ND over Oregon ....

[TomCollins]

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Yeah, cause Navy is so much better than Montana.

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What do you think the line on an Oregon vs. ND game would be?

ND would be favored by at least 5 points. That alone shows they are more deserving in my book.

[MyTurn2Raise]

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Oregon is #5 in the BCS and ND is #6, yet by getting #6 ND was "guaranteed" a spot in the BCS? And Oregon was not? I'm so confused.

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Oregon beat no one. Montana, oooo, Fresno, oooo, Houston, ooo

7 average Pac-10 teams, oooo


Notre Dame had one of the hardest schedules in the land, and honestly, they are probably 1 play from playing against Texas in the Rose Bowl.

ND won

@ Pitt
@ Michigan
@ washington
@ purdue
TENNESSEE
lost to USC by 3

Oregon

FRESNO STATE at home by 3
@ Arizona State
CAL at home

No contest. Just those 4 road wins for ND puts them above Oregon.

Think about it this way, if Notre Dame scheduled Houston at home in stead of USC, they'd be 10-1, and no one would question them going to the Fiesta ranked 3-4.

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ND schedule (current ranks) record of opponents

at Pittsburgh: 5-6, T3rd-5th Big East
at (20) Michigan: 7-4, T3rd-6th Big Ten
Michigan State: 5-6, 9th place Big Ten
at Washington: 2-9, TLast Place Pac Ten
at Purdue: 5-6, 8th place Big Ten
(1) USC: 12-0, 1st place Big Ten
Brigham Young: 6-5, T2nd-3rd Montain West
Tennessee: 5-6, T4th-5th SEC Eastern Division
Navy: 7-4, Independent
Syracuse: 1-10, Last Place Big East
at Stanford: 5-6, T4th-6th Pac Ten

So, ND played 4 teams with a winning record, 2 from major conferences, and only 1 on the road; that's not too spectacular. While it looked tough on paper, those teams turned out not to be such on the field. Don't believe the hype. Those four road games are easier than what members of the big 5 conferences play every year as a part of their normal schedule.

[ChromePony]

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Also considering that ND hasnt gotten BCS money in 5 years and Oregon gets some every year, I dont feel too bad about this at all.

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This isn't like some sort of financial aid program where we give BCS bids to teams that need the money (and I think that ND is doing just fine financailly by the way), if they wanted a yearly cut they could join a major conference.

[ThaSaltCracka]

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Yeah, cause Navy is so much better than Montana.

[/ QUOTE ]actually they are, Navy is going to a bowl game...Montana is what? Milkin cows right now?

[TheRover]

Are people gonna bitch about this stupid [censored] all month?

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MyTurn2Raise,

Thanks for expanding on ND's easy schedule. You beat me to it.

ND's schedule is weak compared to the likes of PSU or OSU or even Texas.

-Fink

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TheRover,

Yes. Why should 2005 be different than every other year?

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It's an easy explanation Notre Dame has a bigger fan base so they get into a bowl that they don't deserve.

[Jack of Arcades]

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ND's schedule is weak compared to the likes of PSU

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Yes.

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or OSU

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Yes.

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or even Texas.

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Definitely not.

[WLVRYN]

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Also considering that ND hasnt gotten BCS money in 5 years and Oregon gets some every year, I dont feel too bad about this at all.

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This isn't like some sort of financial aid program where we give BCS bids to teams that need the money (and I think that ND is doing just fine financailly by the way), if they wanted a yearly cut they could join a major conference.

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I love how people chop posts up and only take one sentence to quote. The main point of my post was that Oregon shouldnt schedule I-AA teams and other creampuffs, then bitch when they dont get any respect. The money comment was just a response to people say that the decision (which there wasnt one by the way since they got in automatically) was all about the money.

Clearly they could join a conference, but I'm sure the fact that they dont share any TV revenues, licensing revenues or anything else (including BCS money) more than makes up for the fact that they havent gotten $1.5 million from the BCS each of the last 5 years. What they should not do is join the Big East, since we'd see them in the BCS every goddamn year for the rest of time since the Big East sucks and will continue to suck at football.