Why the war on drugs will never be won - Page 4

#31 12-15-2005, 03:21 AM

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(1) to make it impossible for a dealer/pusher to earn a profit on it, thereby destroying their financial incentive to spread the drug.

(2) to reduce the harm/risk to the user

(3) to reduce the harm/risk to the general population

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Couldnt you also do this by making crystal meth illegal and assigning law enforcement agents to track down producers and dealers of it?

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Isn't crystal meth illegal now? Hasn't law enforcement been doing just that for decades now?

QuadsOverQuads · #32 12-15-2005, 03:49 AM

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(1) to make it impossible for a dealer/pusher to earn a profit on it, thereby destroying their financial incentive to spread the drug.

(2) to reduce the harm/risk to the user

(3) to reduce the harm/risk to the general population

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Couldnt you also do this by making crystal meth illegal and assigning law enforcement agents to track down producers and dealers of it?

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Clearly, you can't.

Restricting the supply drives up the price and hence the profit. Dealers are making FAR more under prohibition than they would be if the state came in to undercut them and put them out of business (in which case, they'd make ZERO).

The trade is currently driven underground and the product is unregulated, which also exposes all involved to both physical and medical risks which are preventable -- even allowing for the harm done by illicit substances themselves. It also puts police and the community at far greater risk than would otherwise be the case.

Lastly, by putting drug use into regulated and legal situations, better contact between abusers and the medical community could be created, which would be a major public health benefit. By eliminating black market pricing, property crime would also be GREATLY reduced.

Think about it. This is all simply common sense stuff, once you get beyond the drug war rhetoric.

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BluffTHIS! · #33 12-15-2005, 04:14 AM

Just imagine all the 4H and FFA shows where those proud kids would be displaying their potent cannabis and opium poppy hybrids if drugs were legalized.

BCPVP · #34 12-15-2005, 04:19 AM

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Just imagine all the 4H and FFA shows where those proud kids would be displaying their potent cannabis and opium poppy hybrids if drugs were legalized.

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Just imagine a world where there are kids who are underage proudly displaying their potent drinks if alcohol was legalized. Oh wait...

natedogg · #35 12-15-2005, 04:26 AM

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What would be the purpose in regulating crystal meth?

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You cannot stop me or anyone else from using it. Ever. No matter how hard you try.

Let's see, you've lost and you can never win. Sounds like an excellent reason to try a different approach.

natedogg

BluffTHIS! · #36 12-15-2005, 04:30 AM

Rape keeps occurring despite the laws and punishment of it, and there are plenty of repeat offenders. No way to stop it before the fact. Might as well legalize it right? Because that or an even harsher punishment regime is all you got left isn't it?

BCPVP · #37 12-15-2005, 04:37 AM

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Rape keeps occurring despite the laws and punishment of it, and there are plenty of repeat offenders. No way to stop it before the fact. Might as well legalize it right?

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Your examples are awful. Rape is not victimless. Recreational drug use is.

BluffTHIS! · #38 12-15-2005, 04:47 AM

Well of course you aren't counting the victims of drugs who die from same because they chose it. But his reasoning is exactly the same used by pro-abortion adovcates and there most definitely is a victim there. (But of course they don't count a semi-viable fetus who is partially delievered so that its head might be crushed as a victim by labelling it not a person.)

BCPVP · #39 12-15-2005, 04:53 AM

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Well of course you aren't counting the victims of drugs who die from same because they chose it.

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People die from alcohol poisoning all the time. You want that illegal too? Those hurt by OD'ing on drugs did that to themselves. Should cutting yourself be illegal?

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But his reasoning is exactly the same used by pro-abortion adovcates and there most definitely is a victim there. (But of course they don't count a semi-viable fetus who is partially delievered so that its head might be crushed as a victim by labelling it not a person.)

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Let's not turn this into an abortion thread. Suffice it to say, I think there's a victim involved in abortion as well, so that's not a good analogy either.

BluffTHIS! · #40 12-15-2005, 05:01 AM

How about the victims of those who cause auto accidents while under the influence of drugs similar to those caused by driving while drunk? (And I sure hope you aren't one of those who maintain that "experienced" pot users can drive without impairment or I'm gonna call you something that will cause Cola to ban me for a few days.)