I need to calm down when my M gets low

#1 10-07-2005, 01:31 AM

I play mistake free everytime until I get deep into tourney (30 people left here). I wanted to fold pf here.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t6000 (10 handed) converter

MP2 (t28386)
MP3 (t846)
CO (t26266)
Button (t57949)
SB (t30038)
Hero (t53416)
UTG (t68532)
UTG+1 (t91756)
UTG+2 (t33408)
MP1 (t18712)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
8 folds, SB raises to t13800, Hero calls t7800.

Flop: (t27600) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero calls t16238.

Turn: (t43838) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t43838) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t43838

Lloyd · #2 10-07-2005, 01:33 AM

Precisely at what M do you think you need to calm down?

Sorry Gavin, couldn't resist.

TomHimself · #3 10-07-2005, 01:33 AM

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y not push pf?

edit- u dont have much FE but prolly have the best hand

#4 10-07-2005, 01:38 AM

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y not push pf?

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because i'm an idiot.

and then very next hand, short stack pushes and I have A10. I need to stop calling pushes. I'm going to tape the words Gap Concept to my montior.

#5 10-07-2005, 01:40 AM

btw, what does a person do here (don't think concept is discussed in HOH). That is, my stack is decent size compared to others but my M is low. Should I be behaving in a red zone-ish manner?

Lloyd · #6 10-07-2005, 01:42 AM

That issue is absolutely discussed in HOH2. What do you think you should do in that situation?

Please see the post by 2005 made earlier today on the "M" concept.

#7 10-07-2005, 01:51 AM

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That issue is absolutely discussed in HOH2. What do you think you should do in that situation?

Please see the post by 2005 made earlier today on the "M" concept.

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"average stack size but low M" is discussed in HOH? don't remember reading about it.

#8 10-07-2005, 02:03 AM

nm, it's Q. i'm a retard.

tshak · #9 10-07-2005, 02:13 AM

The jist of it is, especially if it isn't a satellite tournament, that M is far more valuable than Q. Just recite the alphabet - M comes before Q. Do you see why?

In all seriousness, the reason we're concerned about our M here is that even though there are short stacks, we're going to become *very* short very quickly because of the rising blinds and antes. Sitting tight and waiting around for the shortstacks to either bust out and move up a weak payout, or steal our antes and quickly gain on our chip lead is arguably incorrect.

justT · #10 10-07-2005, 02:09 PM

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(30 people left)

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Don't get too calm here, PP's payout structure is usually VERY flat from 30th up to 11th.