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Old 07-07-2005, 05:44 PM
Mig Mig is offline
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Default Idiot str8... Do you call this down ?

Vilain is a 70/7/2.5 moron over 500 hands. IT's mined stats I have no read on him since I just joined.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, MP folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.75 BB


Would you play this differently ???
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Old 07-07-2005, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: Idiot str8... Do you call this down ?

yep. but im a nub
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Old 07-07-2005, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: Idiot str8... Do you call this down ?

the lack of a raise on a big street befuddles me

i think high AF's with high VPIP indicate that the player is REALLY aggressive post flop which would further indicate that you need to raise either the turn or river. sure, 66 would play like this but so would a slew of other hands according to his his stats. a fair amount you split with, but i can live with that.
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Old 07-07-2005, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: Idiot str8... Do you call this down ?

really need to put in a raise somewhere
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Old 07-07-2005, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: Idiot str8... Do you call this down ?

Raise the turn. Call/bet the river.
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Old 07-07-2005, 06:53 PM
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Default Re: Idiot str8... Do you call this down ?

I don't think it really matters where you raise, turn or river. You just need to.
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Old 07-07-2005, 07:02 PM
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Default Re: Idiot str8... Do you call this down ?

It matters, and I think if you're certain he'll bet the river, you should raise the river.
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Old 07-07-2005, 07:14 PM
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Default Re: Idiot str8... Do you call this down ?

Ignorant question, but what about the preflop 3 bet? He's raising 7% of his hands.. AA,KK,QQ,JJ,TT, AK,AQ,AJ,AT ..isn't that already over 7%??

You can be raising for a few reasons. Raise for value cause you have a better hand, raise to increase your fold equity later / take control of the hand.

With a VPIP of 70% isn't your fold equity gonna be pretty low? Even with an overlay if the blinds fold is this a good 3 bet?
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Old 07-07-2005, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: Idiot str8... Do you call this down ?

[ QUOTE ]
Ignorant question, but what about the preflop 3 bet? He's raising 7% of his hands.. AA,KK,QQ,JJ,TT, AK,AQ,AJ,AT ..isn't that already over 7%??

You can be raising for a few reasons. Raise for value cause you have a better hand, raise to increase your fold equity later / take control of the hand.

With a VPIP of 70% isn't your fold equity gonna be pretty low? Even with an overlay if the blinds fold is this a good 3 bet?

[/ QUOTE ]

Villain (7% raiser) didnt raise preflop.
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Old 07-07-2005, 08:18 PM
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Default Re: Idiot str8... Do you call this down ?

I think it's just chips spewing. This guy isn't all that dumb he is still betting into even tho I 3 bet preflop, He knows I have an ace here and he doesn'T give up. He has a 6 here 90% of the time.If he doesn'T why not just letting him bluff into me ?? And I will often chop here... if he played an ace like
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