Standard Hand 2: Whiffed Overcards OOP

[GrunchCan]

Common situation that is similar to this hand. But now, I am out of position and being out-muscled.

Typical PP 1/2 players.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP3 calls, Hero folds.

[Gravy (Gravy Smoothie)]

Call and check-fold the turn unimproved. This is a little weak for my tastes, and I think the pot is big enough to warrant a call.

[GrunchCan]

Yes, I think your'e right.

[John Paul]

I would call and check fold unimproved as well

[nyc999]

Definitely call, UTG+1 may be pumping a flush draw, or have 1 pair and is trying to isolate.

[srt19170]

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Call and check-fold the turn unimproved. This is a little weak for my tastes, and I think the pot is big enough to warrant a call.

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You've got 6 outs to TPTK, so you need 7:1 to call, and you're getting that. (You've also got runner-runner to nut str8 which is worth another out or so.)

-- Scott

[Gravy (Gravy Smoothie)]

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You've got 6 outs to TPTK, so you need 7:1 to call, and you're getting that. (You've also got runner-runner to nut str8 which is worth another out or so.)

-- Scott

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and backdoor flush

[WSOP Bound]

Why would you call here. You have 6 outs for TPTK, which may not be best hand so I'll count them as three outs. You have .5 out to the K high runner-runner flash. And about zero chance at the backdoor gutshot straight, especially with the two diamnds taking away some of your outs to that. Your facing a bet and a raise. I don't see how 3.5 outs justify calling two cold when your pot odds are about 5.25 to 1. Even with great implied odds I would have to release this.

[topspin]

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Your facing a bet and a raise. I don't see how 3.5 outs justify calling two cold when your pot odds are about 5.25 to 1. Even with great implied odds I would have to release this.

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He's calling 1 bet into a 12SB pot closing the action. I also think you may be undervaluing the BD flush, but since it's a 1-carder I won't argue too hard. I'd call, especially considering he was the flop bettor.

[DrBob]

How do you justify counting the overcard outs as full outs? This is probably closer to 4-5 outs than 7.

In fact, I agree with calling the raise, but for other reasons than odds: You might see the river for free if he's not aggressive, he might be on a flush draw (you've got the best hand), it's noticeable to bet and fold the same round.