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Old 11-26-2005, 12:58 AM
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Default aces all the way

7 Card Stud High ($2/$4), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $1 (converter)

3rd Street - (0.88 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___folds
Seat 2: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___completes___raises
Seat 4: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 5: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___folds

4th Street - (8.38 SB)

Hero: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 5: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls

5th Street - (5.19 BB)

Hero: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 5: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls

6th Street - (7.19 BB)

Hero: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 5: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls

River - (9.19 BB)

Hero: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___???
Seat 5: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___

Total pot: (9.19 BB)

Who bets this river and why?
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Old 11-26-2005, 01:23 AM
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Default Re: aces all the way

Bet the river.
(1)He's not likely to have a straight.A 9 & a J are already gone so he had to hit a 3 card draw to make it.
(2)If he has only 1 pair he is likely to call you for the size of the pot.
(3)He can't raise unless his hand can beat A's up(not likely),so you can fold comfortably to a raise.
(4)If you check,he's not going to bluff at it,because he knows you will like call with a pair of A's because of the pot size.
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Old 11-26-2005, 02:52 AM
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Default Re: aces all the way

that is a very complete answer... thanks
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Old 11-26-2005, 02:54 AM
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I don't see any value in betting the river. There is no shame showing down Aces that didn't improve. You're risking two bets to get one, and I don't think they will favor out in the long run, unless you're playing in a very loose game and you know you'll get called just to prove it.
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Old 11-26-2005, 03:26 AM
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I'd say given his passivity throughout the hand and his board, he's unlikely to have a hand which beats a pair of aces, and it's very unlikely he can beat aces up. Assuming he's a typical player, he won't raise on the river with two pair, but he will probably bet if you check, and I assume you will always call a bet if you check the river. He will also probably call the river with a pair. This means that you lose an extra bet every time he has two pair, regardless of whether you check or bet, but if you bet, you gain a bet when he doesn't. And as was said, if you're raised, it's an easy fold, so if he improves to trips, you still lose only one bet.
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Old 11-26-2005, 06:59 AM
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Default Re: aces all the way

Easy bet. Like others have said, he will check behind unimproved but bet when he makes two pairs. Don’t let him do that.
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Old 11-26-2005, 11:14 AM
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One thing to consider is that his cards for improvement are fairly dead.. (His Q, T, and 7 are all in your hand.) This makes it harder for him to improve. Value betting here is the sign of a good player.
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Old 11-27-2005, 02:27 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
Value betting here is the sign of a good player.

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Are you saying I'm not a good player? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 11-27-2005, 02:54 PM
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No, I'm saying it takes some balls, and its the correct play. Poker's all about squeaking out bets and saving bets, right? This is one of those spots.

I think when play play at low limits like .5/1, you get the wrong idea about a winning hand usually is. You feel like if you don't have queens full, you're probably not gonna take down the pot. As you move up, this becomes less of the case..(I'm not speaking to you directly DJR, just in general.)
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Old 11-27-2005, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: aces all the way

I was just teasing you
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