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Old 12-14-2005, 03:44 PM
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Default How do I play this very bad, and loose $100 max game?

My small, local casino has a no limit night once a week. The players that show up are on average very horrendous. Their plays are so bad there are too many to name. For this reason I find it a nervous place to even enter a pot knowing some of these people will put their whole stack in w/ any small pocket or any draw after the flop no matter the texture.
The other problem is this is a $100 max buy in w/ blinds at $2 and $2 and $5 to come in. This seems like an unusually large blind structure in relation to the buy in allowance. Obviously your risking your stack on every pot as some of these players will open w/ raise at $15 to $30 w/ marginal hands. One thing I have going for me is that I already know who the few "better" players are at the table and can adjust accordingly to them. The problem is I'm not sure if I should just play super conservative in this field or should I be will to gamble w/ top pair 2nd kicker knowing I can just rebuy and get another opportunity to double up off these uberfish. FYI, I usually bring $300 to play and find myself reloading $15 to $40 everytime I have to get out of a pot.
I would just like to hear anyones opinions on specific strategies for a table like this.
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Old 12-14-2005, 03:49 PM
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The other problem is this is a $100 max buy in w/ blinds at $2 and $2 and $5 to come in. This seems like an unusually large blind structure in relation to the buy in allowance.
I would just like to hear anyones opinions on specific strategies for a table like this.

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What would I do? I wouldn't play.

I think that $100 max for a $1/$2 game is too low, much less $2/$2 with a $5 bring-in. Are there other games?

If you're playing this one, I would only play your top 5 or 6 hands and maybe small pairs for cheap and hope to hit a monster.

Just my 2cents
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Old 12-14-2005, 03:52 PM
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Unfortunately there are no other games. Its the quality of the competition that makes this so enticing.
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Old 12-14-2005, 04:04 PM
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If you're playing this one, I would only play your top 5 or 6 hands and maybe small pairs for cheap and hope to hit a monster.

Just my 2cents

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I would play almost the oppposite. Gamble early with marginal hands, in position and in the blinds. Try to hit 2 pair/trips. Fold marginal top pair/mediocre kicker hands to decent sized bets. Play small pots with hands you are not sure are best and build pots with powerhouse hands. (most important thing: don't get attached to mediocre overpair and TPTK type hands when the action is telling you you are beat.)

The most important thing it to try to build your stack up to $200+ then you can start use your skill to outplay the other goons who managed to get big stacks by gambooling.
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Old 12-14-2005, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: How do I play this very bad, and loose $100 max game?

If this is your only choice for live NL action, go play online. This game sounds absolutely terrible and the variance would suck with such a terrible blind and "bring in" structure.
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Old 12-14-2005, 04:34 PM
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If this is your only choice for live NL action, go play online. This game sounds absolutely terrible and the variance would suck with such a terrible blind and "bring in" structure.

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This is what I'm most worried about. I'm in a quandry between wanting to play against the worst field I've seen at a live NL game and not dropping $300 in three pots due to a little bad luck. This blind structure truly is horrible. I wish they would bump the limit up to $200. Maybe I'll stick to my other $200nl 1/2 game. Thanks for all the advice.
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Old 12-14-2005, 04:56 PM
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If this is your only choice for live NL action, go play online. This game sounds absolutely terrible and the variance would suck with such a terrible blind and "bring in" structure.

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This is what I'm most worried about. I'm in a quandry between wanting to play against the worst field I've seen at a live NL game and not dropping $300 in three pots due to a little bad luck. This blind structure truly is horrible. I wish they would bump the limit up to $200. Maybe I'll stick to my other $200nl 1/2 game. Thanks for all the advice.

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I'm not a NL expert but if these guys are as bad and marginal as you say they are, I can't imagine going wrong with a conservative approach preflop and a willingness (if they really are that goofy) to be willing to risk all $100 postflop on TPGK. You may be able to make more pushing marginal hands, as someone suggested, but whether or not that'd be +EV over another style, the game ITSELF, with a generally conservative preflop strategy, seems very +EV, and unless $100 is big money to you (doesn't seem it is) I think I'd risk the variance.
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Old 12-14-2005, 07:11 PM
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Tough call here. The level of competition certainly is enough to get my mouth drooling, but I would be afraid I would bleed to death looking for the right hand to push with. Have you spoken with the floorman about this at all?
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Old 12-14-2005, 07:40 PM
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Would anyone play this similar to Miller's short stack strategy? I know this is a little off from exactly what he says to do, but a viable strategy may be to buy in for the minimum, wait for a premium hand (AKs, AA, KK, possibly QQ) and push pre-flop. One of these hands will hit you approximately 1:40 deals. From the way this game sounds, that may be a profitable way to play.
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