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Old 12-24-2005, 01:40 AM
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Default Re: AKo vs. the mighty 3-bet.

Given the stats you gave, I would *strongly* suspect MP1 for 99 after cold-calling 3 and 3-betting the flop. He could possibly have had AQs or AK though. So for sure no more raising, especially if another A falls since that makes it even more likely that MP1 had 99. Call down is probably right because of the standard 5% random flop 3-bettor bull[censored] factor, combined with the fact that he could have AQs or another AK.
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Old 12-24-2005, 01:42 AM
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Default Re: AKo vs. the mighty 3-bet.

Hi NobodysFreak,

I realize you are still learning, so I don't want to be harsh. However, your grunch is just no good!
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Old 12-24-2005, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: AKo vs. the mighty 3-bet.

If you were playing against someone who you knew was very good, he would have 99 here >99% of the time. So you would dump your AK and know that you are drawing dead despite the size of the pot.
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Old 12-24-2005, 02:47 PM
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.5/1

Villian 1 (UTG)is 19.3/8.8/1.71(59)
Villian 2 (MP1)is 24.4/5.4/1.13 (168)

Hero is UTG+2 with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

PRE -
UTG raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, MP1 calls 3 cold, folds to UTG who calls.

FLIZOP - 3 players (5.25 bb) 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG bets, Hero raises, MP1 3-bets, UTG calls, Hero calls.

TURN - 3 players (9.25bb) J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG checks, Hero checks, MP1 bets, UTG raises, Hero folds...


I guess, I should have capped the flop and bet the turn(?) I think I am beat after UTG CR's the turn. I thought 99 or AJ were likely.

Thoughts?
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Old 12-24-2005, 02:53 PM
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I'm 23/1.3 and I would re-raise and cap with 99, AQ+ and cold call with 55. I'm also not good enough to let go of tp/tk but am passive enough to call down to the river.
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Old 12-24-2005, 04:47 PM
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Im not folding the flop.
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Old 12-24-2005, 05:49 PM
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.5/1

Villian 1 (UTG)is 19.3/8.8/1.71(59)
Villian 2 (MP1)is 24.4/5.4/1.13 (168)

Hero is UTG+2 with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

PRE -
UTG raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, MP1 calls 3 cold, folds to UTG who calls.

FLIZOP - 3 players (5.25 bb) 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG bets, Hero raises, MP1 3-bets, UTG calls, Hero calls.

TURN - 3 players (9.25bb) J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG checks, Hero checks, MP1 bets, UTG raises, Hero folds...


I guess, I should have capped the flop and bet the turn(?) I think I am beat after UTG CR's the turn. I thought 99 or AJ were likely.

Thoughts?

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Capping the flop and betting the turn would've helped you how? You would've wasted more money while behind.

As for the turn, you're obviously behind. Best case scenario you have 3 outs. You're not getting close to 14 to 1. This is a no brainer fold.

Good hand, you played it well the whole way.
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Old 12-25-2005, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: AKo vs. the mighty 3-bet.

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What is MP1's range here? I'm guessing AA/99/55/AQ+ so I'd calldown.

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you're only ahead of one of those. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 12-25-2005, 12:55 AM
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this is the only way to play this hand unless you have reads that both players are over-arrgo spazztards.
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Old 12-25-2005, 04:24 AM
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Default Re: AKo vs. the mighty 3-bet.

[ QUOTE ]
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What is MP1's range here? I'm guessing AA/99/55/AQ+ so I'd calldown.

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you're only ahead of one of those. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

20,790 games 0.015 secs 1,386,000 games/sec

Board: As 9c 5h
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 47.3882 % 33.09% 14.30% { AdKs }
Hand 2: 52.6118 % 38.31% 14.30% { AA, 99, 55, AQs+, AQo+ }
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