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Old 11-14-2004, 10:39 AM
cornell2005 cornell2005 is offline
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What hands specifically are you putting your opponent on that would make it correct to bet the turn, given your opponent's call on the flop and his call of a preflop raise in the SB?


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like i said he can have almost any jack and almost any queen. say the top 50% of each. the preflop raise call is nothing, as is the flop call with a pair.
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Old 11-14-2004, 10:48 AM
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say the top 50% of each.

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ok maybe top 25% is a better number.
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Old 11-14-2004, 12:56 PM
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like i said he can have almost any jack and almost any queen. say the top 50% of each. the preflop raise call is nothing, as is the flop call with a pair.

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This is why I said what hand "specifically". QJ,QT,JT have 2 pair, KQ,KJ have a pair + openender, so now your talking about Q9/J9/J8 that you're trying to fold IF these hands will even call a 4x BB raise in the SB. So like I said what hands are you talking about? I think AJ is one, AQ is another possibility if the player is tight. There is very little value to a bet.
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Old 11-14-2004, 01:33 PM
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you're right. i was just trying to make the point that under certain conditions (i.e. the sb will call with a huge number of qx and jx hands preflop, and will fold to your turn bet), betting the turn isnt horrible. mostly i was responding to the posts that said you should check bc you have a draw. but yea, those conditions i mentioned usually dont hold, and checking is what i would choose.
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