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Old 10-05-2005, 12:24 PM
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Examples of racism: Every Chappelle show, Paul "Tiny hands" Mooney, Chris Rock, DL Hughley, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, etc.

There are only like 4 black funny guys that can be funny without leaning on racism constantly: Martin Lawrence, Eddie Murphy, Patrice O'Neal, Damon Wayans. The rest are not funny at all. DL Hughly, Chris Rock, Tracey Morgan, Paul Mooney, Mr. 3000... these guys aren't true comedians.
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Old 10-05-2005, 12:35 PM
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Examples of what everyone thinks is racism but is actually just insensitivity: Every Chappelle show, Paul "Tiny hands" Mooney, Chris Rock, DL Hughley, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, etc.

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Chappelle's Show, Paul Mooney, Chris Rock, they aren't racist. Granted, they often prey on current racial attitudes and stereotypes for a large part of their humor, but that isn't racist.
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:04 PM
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Examples of what everyone thinks is racism but is actually just insensitivity: Every Chappelle show, Paul "Tiny hands" Mooney, Chris Rock, DL Hughley, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, etc.

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Chappelle's Show, Paul Mooney, Chris Rock, they aren't racist. Granted, they often prey on current racial attitudes and stereotypes for a large part of their humor, but that isn't racist.

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Imagine Mooney, Chappelle and Rock were all white dudes. Replace all their white jokes with black jokes.

Still feel the same way??

Mooney is the worst. His inherent hatred of all things caucasian just oozes from his tiny shoulders, hands, and oblong-shapen head.

I love being lumped in with the mistakes of some American Whites from the 1700's to the mid-1800's, especially since each branch of my family tree was back in Ireland during this time period.

Me = blue eyed white boy = "ancestors must have pwned slaves." This logic from a large sector of the African-American population is ignorant and sickening.
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:11 PM
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Imagine Mooney, Chappelle and Rock were all white dudes. Replace all their white jokes with black jokes.
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Yes I'd still feel the same way. Their jokes may be ignorant and insensitive, but they're not racist.

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Me = blue eyed white boy = "ancestors must have pwned slaves." This logic from a large sector of the African-American population is ignorant and sickening.

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I agree, it would be ignorant of an african-american to assume, because you're white, that your family owned slaves. It is not, however, racist.
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:42 PM
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"ancestors must have pwned slaves."

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my ancestors pwned slaves at lawn bowling.
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:45 PM
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"ancestors must have pwned slaves."

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my ancestors pwned slaves at lawn bowling.

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Great post.
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:52 PM
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"ancestors must have pwned slaves."

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my ancestors [b]beat slaves to death and raped their wives[b]

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FYP
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Old 10-05-2005, 02:06 PM
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Examples of racism: Every Chappelle show, Paul "Tiny hands" Mooney, Chris Rock, DL Hughley, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, etc.

There are only like 4 black funny guys that can be funny without leaning on racism constantly: Martin Lawrence, Eddie Murphy, Patrice O'Neal, Damon Wayans. The rest are not funny at all. DL Hughly, Chris Rock, Tracey Morgan, Paul Mooney, Mr. 3000... these guys aren't true comedians.

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You have selective perception. If Hughley, Rock, and Mooney et. al. are guilty of what you say, then definitely so are Martin Lawrence, Eddie Murphy, Patrice O'Neal and Damon Wayans. Murphy did tons of jokes about whites and gays. Patrice O'Neal's entire schtick on Colin Quinn's show was the angry white-bashing black dude. Damon Wayans was fired from SNL for being too racial, and his standup has long included bits from that pool. Martin Lawrence has never been funny for one second in his life, and I honestly can't say what his material consists of, as I've never been able to stick with him for more than 5 minutes.

Jokes about the behavior of different types of people are a staple of comedy since time out of mind. That's not going to change. Most of these comedians also joke about the differences between black people in different neighborhoods, or from different time periods. Chappelle Show seems to perpetuate stereotypes on both sides of the fence; c'mon, the Rick James bits? His Prince impressions? Those "playa hatah" guys that dress like pimps and talk in jive?
Chris Rock seems to me to tell more jokes about black people than he does about any other topic, most of them denigrating jokes. They're also hiliarous; Chris is without a doubt the smartest, fastest, funniest comedian working today. To put it in baseball terms, he has all his pitches working beautifully at this stage of his career.

Mooney does seem to have that "white-hating" thing down. I'm not that big a fan of him, it seems one-sided a lot of the time. I don't know enough of his material to argue that. I've seen some of Hughley's show and I don't see this racist angle.

Sharpton and Jackson, I've seen them sometimes and they're not that funny, although Jesse has his moments.
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Old 10-05-2005, 03:03 PM
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I said there are about 4 black comedians that CAN BE funny without race.

All the others are not funny unless they are telling a racial joke. Those guys are like the Britney Spears, Christina Aguilara, et al, of comedy...all bubble-gum.

Chris Rock at the top of his game!? lol. Right. We get it, J-Lo has a big ass.

Martin Lawrence not funny!? Rent "You So Crazy".
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Old 10-05-2005, 03:07 PM
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K' dude. We'll agree to disagree. Anyone who thinks Chris Rock is not funny or can't be funny without being racial, and at the same time thinks Martin Lawrence is funny is not going to find common ground with my idea of funny.

I'd say I think you're in the minority, but you'd probably think that's racist.
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