AKs - Taken Too Far ? What would you put Villain on ?

[Jonny1723]

I hadn’t long been at the table, so had no reads.

Bet365 0.10/0.20 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG Calls, 2 Folds, MP1 Raises, 3 Folds, SB Raises, BB Calls, UTG Calls, MP1 Calls.

As I had no reads yet, I couldn’t really be sure what MP1 had. I decided to put him on AA-JJ to be on the safe side.

Flop: (24 SB) 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero Bets, BB Calls, UTG Folds, MP1 Raises, SB Raises, BB Calls, MP1 Caps, SB Calls, BB Calls.

I thought the flop was good for me, and with the A falling, I thought it less likely villain had AA. Also, he didn’t cap it Preflop which I would have thought he would if he had AA.
I also thought 45 wouldn’t have hung around given the preflop action.
I thought he could possible have two diamonds, so figures I was tied with AK, and ahead of any of the other hands I put him on, so I decided to raise until capped.

Was this too strong ?
If so, why given the hands that I could be beaten by at that point ?

Turn: (24 BB) 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero Bets, BB goes all in for .10, MP1 Raises, SB Raises, MP1 Caps, SB Calls.

Once I was raised and reraised on this street, I definitely figured villain had AK. (unless he was raising his draw)
Again, would this be a normal assumption ?

River: (33 BB) 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero Bets, MP1 raised, Hero Calls.

I saw no point in capping the river, and the pot was way to big to fold. I only bet as I figured he may fold a draw at this point. I did still fancy to have the best hand (albeit probably split once he didn’t fold)

Final Pot: 37 BB


Results (in white)
<font color="white"> Hero shows AK for a Pair of Aces
Villain shows 88 for 3 of a Kind 8s. </font>

[Gravy (Gravy Smoothie)]

I'd call down after he raises the turn and expect AA a large portion of the time. I don't think he's going this crazy without AK or AA.

[nyc999]

I agree with you, I don't see the villian having AA. I think a set is very possible. I call the turn raise and check/call the river unimproved.

[Jasmien]

turn: call his raise
river: check/call

[droolie]

I like the earlier streets but I check call the river. When villian caps the turn the best you can hope for here if you don't improve is a split. There's no reason to invest more when there are many hands that beat you and very few you beat. Not having seen the results I'm guessing he flopped a set or has AK or AA.

[topspin]

That's some interesting split personality disorder going on there between Hero/SB. The first time I read it, I thought you were getting 3-way action on all streets.

On a coordinated board like this, and given your relative position, you can consider check-raising the flop. You'd like to see a singleton diamond go away; a lone 5 has odds to call but might incorrectly fold too.

I like jamming while BB is still in the hand. Once he's all-in, then how far you go on the turn is really read-dependent -- with this action, you're up against some kind of ace. You tie AK, are dead against AA, and are ahead of AQ/J. Most players aren't going to give you this kind of action without at least TPTK, so I'd just call down the turn raise. I don't think 3-betting is horrible, but once you're capped again you have to check-call the river.

[NoResults]

Fold preflop, you lost the hand.

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Thanks,
NoResults

[topspin]

Sample Size Man? Is that you?

[Mister Z]

I put the villian on suited aces as his preflop play wasn't so agressive but after seeing the flop he capped the betting. Either way, I would have merely called his turn raise and check/called the river as it seemed to me that he had at least two pair.

Now after reading the results it's a mystery to me why he'd cap the betting on the flop with a medium pair with a somewhat coordinated flop and an overcard showing. Definitely bad play on his part on the flop, but you could have saved yourself a few bets on the turn/river.