3 guys playing together in our home game....

we've got 10 or 11 guys that show up on a regular basis to play. However, there are 3 guys (black guys) that come in and we suspect they are playing together. They raise with anything PF, and tend to suck out more than I've ever seen. You can't make a bet big enough to get them out. They call gutshots, open enders, and flush draws no matter how big the bet. And one of them hits something since they always stay in. If you have AA, they all call and your odds are non-existent.

The other 7 or 8 on the table have agreed to play together to try and run them out of our game. We played a "fake" game last night (without them there, obviously) where everyone was trying to stay in if one of the "enemy" raised, but they still ended up breaking us in the mock game.

Should we just not let them come to the game anymore, or is there a way that the group of 7 can get the $$$ out of the 3 that are playing together? It seems like 12/14 cards would beat 6 cards well over half the time. Any suggestions?

[Wolf101]

Is it relevant that they're black?

If you seriously believe that anyone is cheating the best thing to do is stop inviting them. I know it seems like the easy way....

...because it is.

No, but seeing that everyone else is white I thought I would mention it. I am not racist and said nothing about their character, other than it is being questioned at the moment. It's just really sketchy.

They all come in with about 1000 in their pocket and continually buy in if they go bust. They almost never fold and raise with ANY suited cards.

I want to break their ass. Is there a way?

[flatline]

I'd have to say that you are a moron. If they are calling raises with anything and just sucking out, what help do you want? There is nothing you can do about people getting lucky, and it will all even out in time. And if you don't want all three of them calling when you raise with AA, you don't understand poker. They almost never fold, yet you can't figure out how to break them? Here's a crazy idea... wait for a big hand and bet big; don't bluff.

What you dont understand is that I've done that and gotten beat. I sit there and wait on QQ, KK, or AA. Then when I get it I raise PF and they ALL stay in. At that point my odds are terrible. A bad hand ends up winning bc they're all in the hand. See what I'm saying?

[markisst]

play more drawing hands?

[ddollevoet]

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I want to break their ass. Is there a way?

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Learn to play poker because apparently you suck.

Dude, that's not a very intelligent post. The tighter I play, the more they suk out b/c all of them stay in. I guess the best thing is just to find another place to play and not play with them.

I didn't ask for insults, I asked for suggesstions.

[4_2_it]

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You can't make a bet big enough to get them out. They call gutshots, open enders, and flush draws no matter how big the bet.

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Another name commonly used for this situation is NIRVANA! Three calling stations at one table. Please find out the casino they usually play so I can get there ASAP.

[PokerGoblin]

I don't understand how they are colluding? because they all call each others raises? I also don't understand how the three of them being black while the rest of you aren't is relavent to the discussion.

What stakes are you playing? Limit? NL? High buy in?

Do they always come together? Do they arrive and leave together? Do any of them show up without the others or is it all three of them or none of them?

Do they ever play pots without the others in it? Or, again, is it all three of them in or they all fold?

We need some more info before we can help.

PG