|
|
#33
11-12-2005, 09:40 PM
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Maximizing value/Minimizing loss - 200 NL - $400 stacks
[ QUOTE ]
When I use the term "for value" I refer to my equity in the pot, not EV. Incorrect? [/ QUOTE ] No, you are correct. Betting for value is betting to get worse hands to call, by definition. Opening with 85s is probably -EV and definitely not "for value". 
|
|
#34
11-12-2005, 09:45 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Maximizing value/Minimizing loss - 200 NL - $400 stacks
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] When I use the term "for value" I refer to my equity in the pot, not EV. Incorrect? [/ QUOTE ] No, you are correct. Betting for value is betting to get worse hands to call, by definition. Opening with 85s is probably -EV and definitely not "for value". [/ QUOTE ] So to clarify your position. Suppose I am on the button with JT suited, and everyone limps to me. If I should choose to raise, I would not be doing so for vaule?
|
|
#35
11-12-2005, 09:51 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Maximizing value/Minimizing loss - 200 NL - $400 stacks
[ QUOTE ]
So to clarify your position. Suppose I am on the button with JT suited, and everyone limps to me. If I should choose to raise, I would not be doing so for vaule? [/ QUOTE ] No. Not in the sense that other people use the phrase, no.
|
|
#36
11-12-2005, 09:55 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Maximizing value/Minimizing loss - 200 NL - $400 stacks
And in limit poker if I have the nut flush draw and there is a bet and 7 calls to me a raise would also not be for value? Because by definition a value raise is to get worse hands to call?
|
|
#37
11-12-2005, 10:08 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Maximizing value/Minimizing loss - 200 NL - $400 stacks
That's entirely different, in that a 7 way pot with pot equity of greater than 1/7, anything you bet is for value. Show me how a PF raise with 85s get's called by worse hands, I'll show you a value bet. Same delio for TJ.
|
 |
|
|
Linear Mode
