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Elvis 10 7.75%
Rocky 4 3.10%
Stormy 5 3.88%
Kelsey 6 4.65%
Casey 1 0.78%
Nacho 14 10.85%
Herbie 9 6.98%
Rusty 12 9.30%
Sarge 4 3.10%
Flash 2 1.55%
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Jasper 4 3.10%
Mickey 3 2.33%
Petey 3 2.33%
Red 7 5.43%
Jinx 3 2.33%
Clover 3 2.33%
Jiffy 5 3.88%
Tango 3 2.33%
I don't like dogs- cause i'm a buthole 6 4.65%
Hey- shut up down there, what was the question? 3 2.33%
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Old 10-19-2005, 03:05 PM
HoldEmKillah HoldEmKillah is offline
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Default Deep 3/6NL: CAll all in preflop with AQs?

I was browsing through some of my old threads from another forum and came across this one. I believe it should get some good responses here. This hand happened back in May:

Party NL600 6-max.

UTG: ($1500)
CO: (VILLIAN) $2100
BUTTON HERO w/$1550 A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB: ($600)
BB: ($600)

PREFLOP: All fold to VILLIAN to moves all in. Easy fold of course? Well...here's the backround:

Villian to my right has built his stack up by using one move: ALL IN. Even his SCREENAME was All-IN_7 (something like that). On an average of about once every orbit, he would move all in for his entire stack preflop, almost never getting a caller. He has pushed preflop about 20 or so times. The only 2 times he got called was by a short stack when the villian had A 8o and by a medium stack when the villian had A Jo. Sometimes he would show his hand, other times he wouldn't. The times he showed his hand was when he had 10 5o, A 4o, 10 Js, 7 8s, 7 2o and one time he had a good hand, KK. He would make this move regarless of position, limpers, etc. There seemed to be no pattern to his all ins. And yes, he had open pushed with those junk hands with my big stack waiting behind him.

The hand immediately before I got my A Q , he moved all in, everyone folded and showed AK. At that point he had not gone all in preflop for about 3 orbits...which was in fact a long time for him. The first time he did it I would NEVER call him with AQ since he hadn't done it in awhile. If he showed 9 4 the previous hand or some other crap I would now fold my AQ since I would feel a trap coming. But now the reverse is true. And I don't think he is smart enough to think on the level of pushing with AK therefore push with aces the next hand.
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Old 10-19-2005, 03:09 PM
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Default Re: Deep 3/6NL: CAll all in preflop with AQs?

it's sooted
call
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Old 10-19-2005, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: Deep 3/6NL: CAll all in preflop with AQs?

It's an easy fold because of the history, not despite it.

-Diplomat
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Old 10-19-2005, 03:44 PM
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Default Re: Deep 3/6NL: CAll all in preflop with AQs?

I call here, i'd like to put an end to this behavior....
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Old 10-19-2005, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: Deep 3/6NL: CAll all in preflop with AQs?

Why? This is great. Every time he does this he's risking 1500 to win 9 or so.

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Old 10-19-2005, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: Deep 3/6NL: CAll all in preflop with AQs?

How are these hands remotely interesting?
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Old 10-19-2005, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: Deep 3/6NL: CAll all in preflop with AQs?

I think this is one of the most interesting hands of poker I've ever played. I don't see how it's boring.
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Old 10-19-2005, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: Deep 3/6NL: CAll all in preflop with AQs?

AQs is the worst hand i call here with, i call with TT+, AQs+, AKo

the whole reason you don't call with worse is that you get 1 chance to win 1600 off him here, if you are wrong you will likely not get this opportunity again, it may be correct to pass up an immediately +EV situation to get a more +EV spot later

now that i'm thinking i might even fold AQs heh
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Old 10-19-2005, 04:17 PM
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Default Re: Deep 3/6NL: CAll all in preflop with AQs?

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At that point he had not gone all in preflop for about 3 orbits...which was in fact a long time for him.

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If you hadn't said that, insta-call. But with him apparently tightening up his range, it's marginal with AQs.
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Old 10-19-2005, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: Deep 3/6NL: CAll all in preflop with AQs?

I was thinking call till I read this:

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the whole reason you don't call with worse is that you get 1 chance to win 1600 off him here,

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If you only have your original buy in of 600, then definately call. But if you lose, you'll have to get back in at $600 and win another $1000 before you'll be able to take $1600 from him.

But now I'm changing my mind again...
Ff this is his only move, you might not ever to a spot where you could call him. (waiting for AA-TT, AK).
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