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Old 11-23-2005, 04:17 PM
Stealthy Stealthy is offline
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Default Well I flopped a boat HU how am I going to play it?

BB is a 16/8/2.3 TAG over a lot of hands.

I get 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on the button and it is folded to me. I raise, SB folds, BB 3 bets, I call! Can I cap here?

Flop T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

BB bets, I???
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Old 11-23-2005, 04:20 PM
UATrewqaz UATrewqaz is offline
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Default Re: Well I flopped a boat HU how am I going to play it?

I typically call and then raise his turn bet.

My thinking...

If he holds two high cards (say AK) he will probalby know he is beat on the flop and drop out on the turn.

If he holds a big pair (AA/KK/QQ, very likely in this scenario) he will probably call you down after you raise his flop bet, suspecting you perhaps have a T.

If you just call the flop bet it ensures you get 2 BB out of him on the turn when he bets as he will still probably call it down (assuming he doesn't catch his 2 outter or another T pops off and makes you cry).

Of course I'm a moron so this line could be retarded I dunno.
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Old 11-23-2005, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: Well I flopped a boat HU how am I going to play it?

I raise the flop planning to just call a 3-bet so I can raise the turn. Let's hope villain has an overpair.
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Old 11-23-2005, 04:39 PM
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Default Re: Well I flopped a boat HU how am I going to play it?

This is the line I use vs a tag. Someone slightly more passive and I'll just call the first bet and fire on the turn.
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Old 11-23-2005, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: Well I flopped a boat HU how am I going to play it?

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I raise the flop planning to just call a 3-bet so I can raise the turn. Let's hope villain has an overpair.

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Old 11-23-2005, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: Well I flopped a boat HU how am I going to play it?

And if he has overcards you only miss out on 1 SB as compared to waiting till the turn. Overcards aren't folding this flop, or the turn.
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Old 11-23-2005, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: Well I flopped a boat HU how am I going to play it?

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I raise the flop planning to just call a 3-bet so I can raise the turn. Let's hope villain has an overpair.

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Preflop is good. And jrz is right.
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Old 11-23-2005, 06:15 PM
Stealthy Stealthy is offline
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Default Re: Well I flopped a boat HU how am I going to play it?

First JRZ and then Gregatron explained my thinking exactly.

There are several things to take into account here.

1. BB is a TAG

2. He likely knows I am a TAG as well and likely to play fast.

3. He showed strength pre-flop

All of this makes the prospect of me getting 3 bet on the flop fairly high.

flop T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

BB bets, I raise, hoping to get 3 bet whereby I call and pop the turn.

BB calls,

Turn and river and both bricks and BB calls me down with 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

Although I may have missed out on a SB here I think I played this one correctly. If I had waited for the turn to raise against a TAG it allows him to release his hand if he has something like Ace high while popping the flop on a paired board likely gets him to call down the same hand. Also as said before I have a decent chance of getting 3 bet and led into on the turn.

Against a loose/passive or loose/aggressive I would wait for the turn here as they are less likely to fold even to a turn raise and a LAG may 3 bet the bigger street.

For what it is worth a also think the BB played his hand correctly as you have to go to showdown against a player like me with a middle pair heads-up.
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Old 11-23-2005, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: Well I flopped a boat HU how am I going to play it?

Preflop I just call
On the flop I call planning to raise on turn (or maybe river if you think he'll keep betting into you) The only hand he could have that beats you is pocket T's - I like your chances.
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Old 11-23-2005, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: Well I flopped a boat HU how am I going to play it?

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Preflop I just call
On the flop I call planning to raise on turn (or maybe river if you think he'll keep betting into you) The only hand he could have that beats you is pocket T's - I like your chances.

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Raise this situation 666% of the time.
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