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Re: Float like a butterfly
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[ QUOTE ] I dont play these games, so I have no clue either. However, I would have a hard time laying down top 2 given the action. [/ QUOTE ] uhh, what do you put villian on that you are calling a push here? [/ QUOTE ] That occured to me after I posted. If he pushes, hero is probably dead. But if villain is a good player, won't he be occasionally pushing on a bluff, knowing that hero can't call with less than a set? Or does that not happen much in this type of game? |
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Re: Float like a butterfly
Limon, do you really think 150 is a good bet size on the turn? There is about 400 in the pot I think.
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U are right RMan there is 410 in the pot, I would like to hear limon's thoughts. Remember he is coming from a live perspective so the actual exact bet size is less important than it would be online. I think the exact # u decide to bet becomes more important in these online games. I think his point is that a set or another big hand would sometimes play a hand in this matter to maximum value so your opponent isnt gonna try to bluff raise u here. My guess is Ray Zee would not like this turn bet
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Re: Float like a butterfly
you need to bet enough that a CR definitely isnt a play based on "sensing" weakness. i think the way the bets have progeressed $150 following a CC looks strong.
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But if villain is a good player, won't he be occasionally pushing on a bluff [/ QUOTE ] all that really matters is will he be pushing enough on a bluff to make calling getting < 2:1 profitable, no? |
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Re: Float like a butterfly
Turnip, would u have raised the river? If so do u like the amount I chose?
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yes I like the river raise and like the amount. I think I would make it a little more there (~500) but whatever, probably doesn't matter much IMO.
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Re: Float like a butterfly
btw I would have checked turn also but limon's reasoning has got me thinking twice about that, although for a one pair small pot type hand I really don't think checking can be that bad.
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btw I would have checked turn also but limon's reasoning has got me thinking twice about that, although for a one pair small pot type hand I really don't think checking can be that bad. --turnipmonster [/ QUOTE ] Could someone explain this in more detail please? To me, it seems like checking the turn and calling the river (assuming a normal bet, not this 45 dollar one) gets the same amount of money in and sees a showdown instead of just assuming the cr isnt a bluff. Also, it of course gets money in against the weaker elements of villian's range. |
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Re: Float like a butterfly
I am not 100 percent clear on this concept either, but I am pretty sure limon is assuming the turn check-raise is rarely EVER a bluff. I think I agree
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