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Old 11-29-2005, 04:22 PM
billyjex billyjex is offline
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I'd have to disagree on 2002. Rosenbloom, Gardner and Shipley are all top players.
I don't know that 2004 was any better. You only really had one name player going in..Harrington.

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Josh Arieh?

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He's had some good efforts since, but you can't say he was a name player going in.

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Having a bracelet before that final table isn't too shabby.
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Old 11-29-2005, 04:23 PM
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He's had some good efforts since, but you can't say he was a name player going in.

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He won a WSOP Braclet - limit hold 'em in 1999 - and got a second to Chan in 2000. So he had, what, 50% of all the braclets at the 2004 final table? Do you have to have been on tv since 2003 to be a "name player"? I guarantee you that Greg Raymer knew of him prior to the final table.

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Old 11-29-2005, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: Worst WSOP Final Table Ever

wasn't al kruk (2004) also at 2 other final tables at the world series?
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Old 11-29-2005, 05:22 PM
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Yep, Al Krux was at his 3rd main event final table (I think 1990 and 1995 were his other ones) and he was also a bracelet holder (PLHE in 1996). So the 2004 FT had 3 prior bracelet winners (Harrington, Arieh, Krux), along with Raymer and Williams who've had some success since then as well.
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Old 11-29-2005, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: Worst WSOP Final Table Ever

very good point on al kruk..that was a big miss by me.

arieh was not a big name. he definitely was known by some top players.
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Old 11-29-2005, 08:25 PM
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Is it really fair to start judging the 2005 WSOP final table? Let's see what these guys can do with $1 million+ added to the bankroll. Hachem and Dannenmann have already made final tables since the main event. Some of these guys may have only played a few events since then.
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Old 11-29-2005, 10:04 PM
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May need to wait a couple years to pass judgement on the recent massive field Main Events and the final tables.
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Old 11-30-2005, 03:04 AM
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Default Re: Worst WSOP Final Table Ever

Any reason you left it at 7? If you make it 9 which is generally referred to as the final table then 2005 adds Matusow and 2002 Minh Ly.
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Old 11-30-2005, 11:30 AM
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Cunningham had been at least one WPT final table, he was known before this year. better known than Arieh was going into last year.
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Old 11-30-2005, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: Worst WSOP Final Table Ever

Amusingly (or not amusingly) enough, by the very fact that the players on the 2005 final table were on the 2005 final table they will now be considered by John Q. Sixpack to be some of the best players of the game.

Many don't realize just how many people have gotten into the game in the last year -- and, for them, this is their first main event so those players are THE players of the year.

Right or wrong, perception is oftentimes reality.

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