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Old 12-07-2005, 10:10 AM
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It's "by accident."

I rely on this webpage to check my grammar. Here's his entry.
On Accident / By Accident

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Old 12-07-2005, 10:12 AM
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Am I? And the people who are judging others as stupid for using a particular phrase are not [censoreds]? And when I cite a reference that quotes one of the most published and respected linguists in the USA, and contains a fairly reasoned explanation of the usage of the phrase in question, the responses are to completely ignore that content?

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That is not a reasoned explanation.

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Taken literally, if one could care less, then one must care at least a little, which is obviously the opposite of what is meant. It is so clearly logical nonsense that to condemn it for being so (as some commentators have done) misses the point. The intent is obviously sarcastic—the speaker is really saying, “As if there was something in the world that I care less about”.

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This is what you call a reason expanation? This is nothing but pure nonsence. The phrase "I could care less" is most often used by uneducated people who are just spitting back a phrase that they hear. To suggest that these morons are actually being sarcastic is nothing short of idioitc.
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:27 AM
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Am I? And the people who are judging others as stupid for using a particular phrase are not [censoreds]? And when I cite a reference that quotes one of the most published and respected linguists in the USA, and contains a fairly reasoned explanation of the usage of the phrase in question, the responses are to completely ignore that content?

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That is not a reasoned explanation.

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Taken literally, if one could care less, then one must care at least a little, which is obviously the opposite of what is meant. It is so clearly logical nonsense that to condemn it for being so (as some commentators have done) misses the point. The intent is obviously sarcastic—the speaker is really saying, “As if there was something in the world that I care less about”.

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This is what you call a reason expanation? This is nothing but pure nonsence. The phrase "I could care less" is most often used by uneducated people who are just spitting back a phrase that they hear. To suggest that these morons are actually being sarcastic is nothing short of idioitc.

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I define sarcasm (in this context) as the use of words the literal meaning of which are the opposite of (or significantly at variance with) the meaning intended. You perhaps define it differently, which could give rise to the disagreement.
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:36 AM
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haha, I didnt namecall.

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I did though. I called you "moran". The use was intended to be slightly tongue in cheek, since it 'OOT's own insult', almost an honour. But it would have been impossible to parse this in the context so I no doubt came off as more of a [censored] than I really am. Apologies.

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I said he was coming across as an ahole because of his insult to tony p.

I said that the people who would go through all that trouble to show that it was sarcasm look like morons for attempting to make the excuse.

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Tony P responded flippantly to me, so I flipped him off. I think that's fair play.

It was perhaps 30 seconds work on google to find that reference, so it was not much trouble at all.

By the way, you make a distinction between saying "you are a moron" and saying "you look like a moron" that seems to me a bit of a dodge.
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:50 AM
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I kicked him in the groin by accident while waiting in line.
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:57 AM
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I kicked him in the groin by accident while waiting in the queue.

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FYP-funq!
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:59 AM
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haha, I didnt namecall.

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I did though. I called you "moran". The use was intended to be slightly tongue in cheek, since it 'OOT's own insult', almost an honour. But it would have been impossible to parse this in the context so I no doubt came off as more of a [censored] than I really am. Apologies.

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I said he was coming across as an ahole because of his insult to tony p.

I said that the people who would go through all that trouble to show that it was sarcasm look like morons for attempting to make the excuse.

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Tony P responded flippantly to me, so I flipped him off. I think that's fair play.

It was perhaps 30 seconds work on google to find that reference, so it was not much trouble at all.

By the way, you make a distinction between saying "you are a moron" and saying "you look like a moron" that seems to me a bit of a dodge.

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no no its not a dodge.. I was actually trying to help out. Sometimes I'll say something meant in jest or just unthinkingly and it'll come off ahole-ish when it wasnt meant that way.

So I wanted to actually let you know, in case you werent meaning it that way (which it turns out you werent).

and I dont think ANYONE should EVER take it seriously when people deliberately say "moran".
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Old 12-07-2005, 11:09 AM
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I agree with you maryfield. I think behemoth see's you as an [censored] because he has no way to support his opinion (other than by namecalling)... while you do.

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Here is something to support the fact that "I could care less" is not sarcasm: It's obviously not. This is the exact same evidence as maryfield's whole quoted paragraph (although condensed) with the exception that it's actually true.

I mean, look who says it.
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Old 12-07-2005, 11:55 AM
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by. there is no way this should be a post.
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Old 12-07-2005, 11:59 AM
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The people who use "on accident" are the same people who say "I aksed you a question."
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