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Old 10-13-2005, 05:25 PM
Duffman Duffman is offline
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Default Do I have the equity to raise here?

Everyone except BB is loose/fishy. BB seems pretty solid.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls.

I have 8 outs to the straight, and I give myself 4 outs for overcards(too much?).

Is this enough equity for the flop raise?
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Old 10-13-2005, 05:31 PM
bozlax bozlax is offline
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Default Re: Do I have the equity to raise here?

Double-gutter is 8 outs, but should probably be discounted to ~6 because only the Q gives you the nuts. I think 4 is a little steep for your overcards, since either one also puts three to a straight on the board, so call them ~2. So, call it around 8 outs. 8 outs gives you around 32% equity, so you don't have the edge to raise with only 2 players already in with you, but since you've got position the raise may get you a free turn card if you need it, might clean up your overcard outs, and being 3-bet would make your hand REAL easy to release if it didn't hit on the turn, so I like the raise, here.
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Old 10-13-2005, 05:35 PM
aces_dad aces_dad is offline
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Default Re: Do I have the equity to raise here?


Given your read BB is likely tight enough to fold to your 2bet thus you have to decide if your equity is &gt;33%.

I'm tempted to discount the J out's completely and give 1.5 to the K, so you're just below the 33% needed for an equity raise.

You are in position however and this bet may also provide a free turn if you want to take it, so if these are passive players I like it.
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Old 10-13-2005, 05:36 PM
Greg J Greg J is offline
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Default Re: Do I have the equity to raise here?

I'm not sure I raise preflop, but I don't think it's a bad play either.

Flop: I like the raise if you think it will likely get you a free look at the river. As for equity, it's close. I think 12 outs is a tad overestimating. I'm thinking more like 10. Given the table read (passive players), I don't mind it at all, as you can probably take a free card if you need it.
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