Whats my move?

ZManODS · #1 09-26-2004, 12:30 AM

Crap it sure looks like im beat here once he comes over the top. How should i be playing this?

Paradise Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed)

saw flop|saw showdown

BB ($41.25)
UTG ($16.50)
UTG+1 ($40.00)
Hero ($47.75)
MP2 ($94.00)
CO ($30.75)
Button ($63.25)
SB ($34.00)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $2, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB (poster) calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50, UTG calls $1.50.

Flop: ($8) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero????

ZManODS · #2 09-26-2004, 12:37 AM

Paradise Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed)

saw flop|saw showdown

BB ($41.25)
UTG ($16.50)
UTG+1 ($40.00)
Hero ($47.75)
MP2 ($94.00)
CO ($30.75)
Button ($63.25)
SB ($34.00)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $2, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB (poster) calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50, UTG calls $1.50.

Flop: ($8) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $2, SB raises to $4, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero raises to $16, SB raises to $32, Hero calls $16.

Turn: ($72) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: ($72) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: $72
Main Pot: $72, between Hero and SB.

ZManODS · #3 09-26-2004, 01:34 AM

Anyone else play this hand this way?

Sephus · #4 09-26-2004, 01:38 AM

i think i either bet more on the flop or more likely go for a checkraise. your hand kicks ass and i want to get allin on the flop any way i can.

ZManODS · #5 09-26-2004, 01:43 AM

so was my flop play pretty standard? Just wanted to know if i should be pushing all in here.

Sephus · #6 09-26-2004, 01:45 AM

definitely! you are either way ahead or a little behind.

GlemZurg · #7 09-26-2004, 04:39 AM

Anyone reraising so much has a pair beat, so I'd look at your hand as a drawing hand.

I'd play cautiously after the first reraise.

And, as seductive as your flush draw is, consider that if you are against another flush then there are 6 clubs accounted for and you have a 7 out flush draw which only has odds of about 2.5:1 in two cards--a losing all-in situation. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Also, consider if you are against a two pair or a set. The probability pages (p.209-210) in Pot-Limit & No-Limit Poker (Ciafoone and Reuben) show match-ups between flush draws and two-pair/set (on two flush flops). The flush draws (in various situations) don't get more then 2:1 odds against a made set. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

That said, you may want to take your hand, the flop, and explore win/loss with your opponents possible hands using http://twodimes.net/poker/. See if you get even close to 1:1 odds against any of the two-pairs, sets, or flushes your may be up against (I think you won't). [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

If not, I say don't go all-in on the flop. See the following cards cheaply until you improve. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

My two BB.

Justin

GlemZurg · #8 09-26-2004, 04:42 AM

Not that you went all-in of course. I'm just talking about being committed to the hand based on the flop action. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Justin

cornell2005 · #9 09-26-2004, 08:14 AM

ewww. bet at least 6 on the flop then go from there. that will help you define his hand alot better. you arnt folding. but try to stay away from min betting big draws + big pairs. its much harder to get all in vs bad hands if you are forced to make that extra re-raise