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Old 07-29-2005, 05:18 PM
bunky9590 bunky9590 is offline
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Default Representing trips against a TAG Party 15-30

Villain in the hand is TAG 18/10/1.8 plays good postflop.

Villain opens in the Hijack, CO and button fold, Sb folds, I smooth call the raise with red nines.

Flop T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
I check, villain bets, I checkraise, villain three bets (this is most definitely not a Ten now.) I decide to call.

Turn K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
I check , villain bets. Your move?
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Old 07-29-2005, 05:46 PM
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I dont think you played any of the streets optimally i.e. the standard way.
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Old 07-29-2005, 05:54 PM
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I'm a bit puzzled as to why you wouldn't just 3-bet PF and lead the flop.

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Old 07-29-2005, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: Representing trips against a TAG Party 15-30

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I dont think you played any of the streets optimally i.e. the standard way.

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Those two things are not the same the majority of the time.
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Old 07-29-2005, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: Representing trips against a TAG Party 15-30

If I were Villain, I wouldn't think a flop c/r is supposed to represent trips.
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Old 07-29-2005, 06:23 PM
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Default Re: Representing trips against a TAG Party 15-30

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I dont think you played any of the streets optimally i.e. the standard way.

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Those two things are not the same the majority of the time.

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Preflop they usually are.
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Old 07-29-2005, 06:23 PM
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Default Re: Representing trips against a TAG Party 15-30

If the raiser will autobet the flop calling and check-raising is always better than 3-betting and leading, no matter what you hold. You lose less when the flop is bad, while remaining much more difficult to read.

Good luck.
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Old 07-29-2005, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: Representing trips against a TAG Party 15-30

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I'm a bit puzzled as to why you wouldn't just 3-bet PF and lead the flop.


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That is my usual standard play. Decided on a change up.
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Old 07-29-2005, 06:33 PM
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If I were Villain, I wouldn't think a flop c/r is supposed to represent trips.

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Or couldn't it mean on a different level, "I don't have trips but I really do have trips?"

I forgot to post my turn action where I check raised him after the three bet my c/r on the flop. That was more representative I suppose, Well, I could have flopped the underfull and fastplayed as well knowing I would get action on that board by almost any PP.

Yeah the flop checkraise signifies a bit of weakness per se, or more of a feeler. The leadout after smoothcalling the PF raise would just be gay. The flop 3 bet by villain in position could be quite a few hands in reality.
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Old 07-29-2005, 06:38 PM
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The leadout after smoothcalling the PF raise would just be gay.

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Indeed.
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