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Old 11-16-2005, 07:26 AM
theblitz theblitz is offline
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Default Improving post-flop play

A recuring theme in many posts is that you need to improve post-flop skills in order to move from a break-even/slightly winning player to a good play.

Pre-flop play is (generally) easier as there are many lists and lots of advice what to play.

The question is: How do I improve my post-flop play.
"Just practice" is not a real answer.

What should I be looking for?
What books should I be reading (or re-reading)?

I'm sure I am not the only one with this problem. It is the main thing that stops me moving up to higher levels.
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Old 11-16-2005, 08:23 AM
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Hey,

I would advise you the following books,

- small stakes holdem by Ed Miller
- Hold em harrington vol 1

And yes its an easy answer but practice is the best learning process
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Old 11-16-2005, 08:37 AM
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Default Re: Improving post-flop play

I would suggest playing 1-2 tables at a time for 2 hours a week. And put somone on a hand every hand. Really concentrate on the bets, action, position, and use all this to put somone on a hand, not just when you are in the pot. If hand reaches showdown then after the showdown replay everything in your head. Look for the motivations behind bets sizes, think about player types and all of that. Then go back to 8 tabling for the rest of the week. After a while you will start to become better at hand reading. Hand reading is a big key for improved post flop play.
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Old 11-16-2005, 08:43 AM
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Default Re: Improving post-flop play

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put somone on a hand every hand. Really concentrate on the bets, action, position, and use all this to put somone on a hand, not just when you are in the pot.

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This is probably my biggest problem.
I tend to jump around when I am not in a hand.
Sometimes I will even look at web sites (2+2!).

Actually, when my wife sits next to me she tends to stop me jumping around. Maybe I should get her to sit with me more often.
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Old 11-16-2005, 08:54 AM
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Default Re: Improving post-flop play

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Hey,

I would advise you the following books,

- small stakes holdem by Ed Miller
- Hold em harrington vol 1

And yes its an easy answer but practice is the best learning process

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I never get why people recommend SSHE for SSNL players. Yes it's a great book, but limit play is so different from NL that I don't think it's of that much use.
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Old 11-16-2005, 09:00 AM
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Default Re: Improving post-flop play

Cover your hole cards with post-its for one session.
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Old 11-16-2005, 10:29 AM
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Default Re: Improving post-flop play

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I would suggest playing 1-2 tables at a time for 2 hours a week. And put somone on a hand every hand. Really concentrate on the bets, action, position, and use all this to put somone on a hand, not just when you are in the pot. If hand reaches showdown then after the showdown replay everything in your head. Look for the motivations behind bets sizes, think about player types and all of that. Then go back to 8 tabling for the rest of the week. After a while you will start to become better at hand reading. Hand reading is a big key for improved post flop play.

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Good advice.
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Old 11-16-2005, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: Improving post-flop play

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Cover your hole cards with post-its for one session.

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Old 11-16-2005, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: Improving post-flop play

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Cover your hole cards with post-its for one session.

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so you play based on position, player reads and hand reads - not your cards.

(i dont see this working out well, but great practice.. i'd do it on the smallest NL tables available.. .01/.02 or something)
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Old 11-16-2005, 02:59 PM
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Pre-flop play is (generally) easier as there are many lists and lots of advice what to play.

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Im of the opinion many postflop errors are made due to preflop, so you say it's "easy," and yet so many people make so many errors.
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