mods - can you start locking the "can i use a fake id" idiots?

seriously it gets so [censored] obnoxious to see the same question asked over and over again....especially since the ANSWERS ARE ALWAYS THE SAME


you guys should type up some really short and generic response to post whenever the next moron that doesnt know how to use the search button comes in with his insightful question about how he swears he looks 23, but is only 17 and its "like totally unfair that they have to obey the law...man, adults suck"

"Dont bother going into a casino without at least a reasonable quality fake id and looking older than 17, because although you will *probably* almost never get carded, the punishment if you are caught is typically pretty stiff and not worth the risk"

[mmbt0ne]

Make a nice little post about like this, but without the tone, and with a little more information (like what the punishments are/can be) and I bet JBB will put it in the FAQ.

[Al_Capone_Junior]

For JBB - since I already wrote most of the FAQ post anyway, how about this for an addition...

Underage players and fake ID: Basically, don't do it. Although casinos don't card young players that often, they might, and you're much better off with NO ID than with a fake one. If you have NO ID, you'll probably be immediately asked to leave, and won't be allowed back until you can produce ID. They'll be checking it closely next time you show up, that's for sure. However, if you produce a false ID and get caught, you could be in for a world of trouble. The exact laws vary from place to place, but rest assured that no place is going to be very nice about this situation. All places will confiscate your ID, and you could suffer anything from being banned to being taken downtown in a squad car facing hefty charges.

Basically, my advice to underage readers is this - if you're already posting on 2+2, obviously you have access to the internet, so PLAY ONLINE. Don't mess with casinos, they don't have much of a sense of humor, and you're in for a world of hurt if your "fake ID plan" doesn't work out like you thought it would. Online casinos will probably be equally unpleasant if you're caught gambling underage there; your account will almost certainly be frozen. Best advice, DON'T GAMBLE UNDERAGE.

Anyone with comments / edits please do elaborate in great detail....

JBB, if you think it's "ready" then add it to the FAQ.

al

[Mat Sklansky]

I don't want any illegal behavior encouraged, including someone under 18 playing online. The first paragraph you wrote is appropriate.

[RoundTower]

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I don't want any illegal behavior encouraged, including someone under 18 playing online. The first paragraph you wrote is appropriate.

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Is this necessarily illegal? I know the poker sites don't like it. Is online poker legal at all in the US? Everywhere in the US?

[Quicksilvre]

The US Justice Department has made it quite clear that they will not prosecute individual Internet poker players. If they did, Moneymaker and Raymer would both have been charged with violating the Wire Act, which they were not. Nonetheless, to answer your question: no, Internet gambling is not legal in any state, town, village or hamlet in the US (though North Dakota may change that).

Since most of these sites seem to be based in countries where the gambling age is 18, I would place the de facto minimum age for Internet gambling at 18. I don't think that can be established hard and fast, but I'd wait until then to stay on the leeward side of the law. (I'm 17, waiting for my 18th at the earliest, to start.)

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

Gambling in the US is regulated at the State level, not federal. Each state has different laws and most are completely vague on internet gambling. The one state I know where gambing online is expressly illegal is Nevada, for obvious reasons.

For specific laws, see this.

[sully4321]

or just make sure you lose money to the casino, then they'd never ID you

[RydenStoompala]

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how about this for an addition...


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Lemme help, Al...

(you'll have to bury this in the middle of your more professional response)

Recent changes to Nevada law allow casinos who catch underage gamblers to process them under section 42 of the state juvenile act. Punishment can be inflicted without casino security being required to notify the local police of their actions. Underage gamblers are handcuffed, jammed inside a small wooden crate and dragged through the desert behind a modified dune buggy. Once unconscious, the moron ('scuse me, underage person)is staked out in the sand while lizards gnaw on his/her eyes for 24 hours. The casino security people then hose the person down, dress them in a plastic bag imprinted with the words LOOKING FOR LUCK IN ALL THE WRONG PLACES and drop them off at the Vegas tour bus compound.

or..we can just go with Matt and get the posts deleted as soon as we spot them...but that's not a ton of fun.

[Al_Capone_Junior]

Ryden's fantastic post gets him a get out of getting kicked in the nuts free card!

al