Flush draw, but not the nuts

[Beck]

I really don't know whether my laydown was correct. I had the odds to draw for the flush, but considering the action, Mybe I wouldn't have the highest flush.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (9 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, <font color="CC3333">CO raises</font>, SB calls, Hero folds, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

River: (17 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="CC3333">CO bets</font>, SB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: 20 BB

[A_C_Slater]

You have pot odds to call. It seems likely he made a straight. Queen high flush is very strong if you make it.
I don't think I would fold any flush draw here.

[JDErickson]

3 bet the flop.

Bad laydown on the turn. Your flush will win more often then not.

[A_C_Slater]

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3 bet the flop.

Bad laydown on the turn. Your flush will win more often then not.

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Why 3 bet the flop without position? Is it to just build a huge pot cause they all have to call?

[Blindfolk]

Because the other players will call.

[banditdad]

Personally I wouldn't 3 bet the flop. I've been burned to many times and I think you're inviting a cap. But I also wouldn't fold. You have the pot odds. Win or lose you have to play this to the river and showdown. I would raise and reraise the river and play the odds that no one had Axs or Kxs.

[Blindfolk]

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Personally I wouldn't 3 bet the flop. I've been burned to many times and I think you're inviting a cap. But I also wouldn't fold. You have the pot odds. Win or lose you have to play this to the river and showdown. I would raise and reraise the river and play the odds that no one had Axs or Kxs.

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You've been burned too many times. SO WHAT.

Make the mathematically correct play. If it gets capped, awesome. Those people already paid $1 to see the next card, and will pay another $1.

If you only had one club and the board was full of spades, it's a little different but it's not likely that someone holds Kxs or Axs.

[Greg J]

Sweet Jesus no! NO NO NO!

You cannot fold this! 4 reasons (in no particular order):
1) You have a draw to a really good hand that will usually hold up if you hit it.
2) The pot is large.
3) You have a draw to a really good hand that will usually hold up if you hit it.
4) The pot is large.

I think that about covers it.

Flop: Good bet. But when it gets back to you you should 3 bet!
Turn: Dynamic will change if you do the above. Still, there is not way you get out of this hand. YOU CANNOT FOLD THIS!

[Piiop]

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Why 3 bet the flop without position? Is it to just build a huge pot cause they all have to call?

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Pot Equity.

[Piiop]

Points 1, 3, 2, and 4 are all very good.

Good post, Greg.