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ok... anyone else find more bad beats at ULTIMATE BET than others?
ok.. i am the last person to blame luck... or cheating.... or anything like that... but for the last few months... i have gotten soooooo many bad beats at ultimatebet.
meaning ... lower pocket pair ALWAYS makes a set.... (most of the time on the river) this is just happended to me when i lost with aces... to trip 7's on the river... and yesterday... when i had AA vs. KK (on the river he gets a king) both times.. these were over 200 dollar pots... now i know it is just luck..... and all that stuff.. but just wondering if anyone else has seen this more often on one site than another? i told myself that if it happened again today i would stop playing on UB.. because it happens so much.... and sure enough... an hour into my session it happens. UGH.... thats my rant for the day. |
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Re: ok... anyone else find more bad beats at ULTIMATE BET than others
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ok.. i am the last person to blame luck... or cheating.... or anything like that... but [/ QUOTE ] its amazing how many stupid posts start out with this exact sentance |
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Re: ok... anyone else find more bad beats at ULTIMATE BET than others
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[ QUOTE ] ok.. i am the last person to blame luck... or cheating.... or anything like that... but [/ QUOTE ] its amazing how many stupid posts start out with this exact sentance [/ QUOTE ] Seriously. |
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Re: ok... anyone else find more bad beats at ULTIMATE BET than others
no. i think one of the major leaks in the two plus two community is that posts like these surface on an almost daily basis. this has been discussed so many times before and there is no real evidence supporting these claims. not to be rude.... but it is true.
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Re: ok... anyone else find more bad beats at ULTIMATE BET than others
Unfortunately, anything can happen in the short run. In the long run, the cards will fall as probability dictates, but the long run is very, very long indeed. Some people will see disproportionate bad beats at UB, others will see them at Party, still others will see them at Stars. And other people will enjoy astonishing at those sites. For a while, anyway....
Also, remember the role selection bias plays. When you get hit by a bad beat, such as someone rivering trip 7s to take out your pocket rockets, you remember that! You may not think twice about the times your As hold up, because that's what "should" happen; but when they don't, you feel somehow cheated, and it sticks in your mind. Variance is a b****, I'm afraid. -Mike |
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Re: ok... anyone else find more bad beats at ULTIMATE BET than others
i know it is all even in the long run.... and i play at about 3 different sites daily.....
i have had a ton of bad beats.... at UB... but i know it is all just random... so i continued to play there... but it seems to happen everytime.... i have taken bad beats at every site.... and in live games.... no worries... i am just stating that at UB it happens more than other sites... and wondering if anyone else noticed this? either way.... i am done wth UB. i love their software... and game selection.... but it is just not worth the bad beats. call me crazy.. but that is just the way i feel. |
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Re: ok... anyone else find more bad beats at ULTIMATE BET than others
You're not crazy, just irrational.
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Re: ok... anyone else find more bad beats at ULTIMATE BET than others
How come we never see the posts from the people that say UB (pick your site) is amazingly lucky for them. I've had my share of "bad" beats, but I've also had my share of river sets and gutshot straights. I've seen all-ins on the flop switch leaders on every street. I busted aces full with quads.
I think a lot of this is selective memory - since the "bad" beats are so negative, you remember those as bad luck, but when you win one, it's all skill. |
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Re: ok... anyone else find more bad beats at ULTIMATE BET than others
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How come we never see the posts from the people that say UB (pick your site) is amazingly lucky for them. [/ QUOTE ] We actually do kinda get posts like this i think. "I've been winning 15BB/100 at party in my last 4k hands. I know I've just been getting lucky and am running very hot but......" But your general point is correct. When most players win 10-15BB/100 they won that much because they are so much better players then everyone else. When they lose it is bad-luck, bad-players, bad-site, excessively bad-beats, etc. For whatever reason, I'm more criical of myself for some reason. When I break-even or lose 1BB/100 over a week or so I'm extremely critical of my own pla and abilities. If I win 2-4BB/100 over the course of a few weeks (month or longer) I feel like I've been getting incredibly lucky and have been hitting significantly more sets and catching good cards on the river far more often then I deserve. I think it's a matter of self-perception. Many fish think they are MUCH better than they really are. So when they don't win they are kind of confused because they just KNOW they are doing everything right. Some winning players are more objective in their abilities OR even underestimate how good they are. The psychology of 'I'm so good that I never deserve to go on a bad run' that many of your worst table-whiners and conspiracy theorists rant-on about is still very interesting to me. |
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*everyone* has more bad beats / hour at UB than any other site
UB is by far the fastest site out there. If you play X hours on UB, you will be dealt far more hands than when playing for X hours on any other site. So you'll also be dealt more "bad beats."
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