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[SlantNGo]

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Do I need to bump the thread about betting into the preflop raiser again? I don't bet this flop.

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I don't get it. Assuming the PFR bets AK or AQ here but only calls if I bet, what are you trying to accomplish by checking? Check/call then donk the turn? I'd rather lead both streets. Check/raise to bloat the pot?

Unlike many of the situations from the betting into PFR post, I think our hand here is quite strong against a typical raiser's range. This is not a situation where villain only raises a better hand. A PFR alone doesn't tell us too much, so we can't narrow it down like we could if there was a 3-bet.

If we are behind, we have 5 outs to catch up, and can easily make a profitable call back to us. We can call also on the turn, then check/fold on the river.

So I would play it as follows: Bet the flop. Keep betting until resistance is shown. If the PFR raises my flop bet, call, then check/call the turn. Check/fold the river unimproved. I'm counting on an unimproved overcard hand like AK or AQ not betting the river unless it makes a pair. Is this a bad assumption?

I fail to see why checking the flop is superior in this case.

[Aaron W.]

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Do I need to bump the thread about betting into the preflop raiser again? I don't bet this flop.

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I don't get it. Assuming the PFR bets AK or AQ here but only calls if I bet, what are you trying to accomplish by checking? Check/call then donk the turn? I'd rather lead both streets. Check/raise to bloat the pot?

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Let's say you bet and villain raises. Do you donk-fold the turn? Or check-fold? Or check-call? Checking allows him to gain a free card with his flop raise if he did it with overcards. Donking the turn faces you with the unhappy prospect of getting raised again, and probably having the worst hand, but feeling the need to call down because you have a decent hand. Check-folding is bad because you may have enough outs and the right pot odds to peel.

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So I would play it as follows: Bet the flop. Keep betting until resistance is shown. If the PFR raises my flop bet, call, then check/call the turn. Check/fold the river unimproved. I'm counting on an unimproved overcard hand like AK or AQ not betting the river unless it makes a pair. Is this a bad assumption?

I fail to see why checking the flop is superior in this case.

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Checking the flop is better because it gives you a better turn/river line.