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Old 08-27-2005, 06:02 PM
theRealMacoy theRealMacoy is offline
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Default Re: How many hands do you need on a person?

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their VPIP is 4.5 ie 8/176 is that enough to completly avoid this person

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I hope you're kidding.
Why on earth would you want to avoid this player?

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yeah, sit on his right....weeeee free button 95.5% of time.

not to mention being able to put him on a pretty damn narrow range for every hand (e.i., AA-JJ, AK, AQ).

cheers,
the Real Macoy
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Old 08-27-2005, 06:45 PM
MicroBob MicroBob is offline
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Default Re: How many hands do you need on a person?

for some reason it really bothers me that I think there are SEVERAL 2+2'ers who would purposefully avoid a VP-5 type player.
This is also a total mystery to me as I just assumed that anyone who thinks about the game AT ALL would realize that avoiding such a player would be a mistake.
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Old 08-27-2005, 09:30 PM
M Tal M Tal is offline
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Default Re: How many hands do you need on a person?

maybe the OP meant avoid him when he bets/raises
as opposed to avoiding his table.
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Old 08-27-2005, 09:33 PM
JonPKibble JonPKibble is offline
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Default Re: How many hands do you need on a person?

Keep in mind that if you pay too much attention to stats and not enough to actual gameplay, this can be a big leak. So while numbers are important, keeping a watchful eye never hurts either!
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Old 08-28-2005, 02:08 PM
tomdemaine tomdemaine is offline
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Default Re: How many hands do you need on a person?

For the record I did mean avoid when he raises rather than avoid his table. Another related question, is it owrth datamining te $100NL or does it only become worth it at higher levels?
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Old 08-28-2005, 02:57 PM
KKbluff KKbluff is offline
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Default Re: How many hands do you need on a person?

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For the record I did mean avoid when he raises rather than avoid his table. Another related question, is it owrth datamining te $100NL or does it only become worth it at higher levels?

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Extra information is always a good thing.
Many players that you get stats on you will never see again, but for the few people you will see again the new info on them can be a big help.
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Old 08-29-2005, 12:21 AM
grimel grimel is offline
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Default Re: How many hands do you need on a person?

It depends. Sometimes waiting for PT to come to a conclusion is a waste of time. If some moron wants to call 3 bets cold with 78 suited I do not need another hand to understand he's a moron even if he flops x78 catches an 8 on the turn and 7 on the river. I make a note using the poker sites software and continue.

If I see a note I read what particular type of moron I'm facing and continue. Note I only take notes on the morons. If someone is at the table and I know the screen name and they don't have a note I assume they are at least margianlly competent.
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Old 08-29-2005, 12:35 AM
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Default Re: How many hands do you need on a person?

Exactly 1, if you see 23s UTG
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