Anyone still beating the Party $10+1?

[Mr_J]

[ QUOTE ]
especially when one considers how easy it is to make the money after doubling early

[/ QUOTE ]

Doubling up early doesn't make as much difference as you think. Larger stacks only become an advantage when blinds are worth stealing anyway (lvl 4).

[VanVeen]

Well, I like to double up early for a few reasons, some of them unrelated to my theoretical expectation in the actual SnG (re: my, er, 'attentional bandwidth' around the bubble when I'm 6-8 tabling).

[YourFoxyGrandma]

[ QUOTE ]
Yeah, I absolutely hate being called by hands I dominate.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah man. I hate winning too.

[daboze]

No matter what you say, pushing into a $30 pot in level 1 is a terrible play. There is just no value in taking a coinflip at this point if you are a decent player.

Yes, you may get a call where you are in a dominating position. But you will also often get called when you are an underdog (any pair), or when you are dominated (AA,KK).

If you have attention problems then maybe you shouldn't be multi-tabling.

[MarkyMark]

Are you using two identities and thus, infringe upon Terms&Conditions of Party/Empire? Are you also using two computers with seperate IPs?

[Jason Strasser]

The key word in the title is still. Most people who actually beat the party 11 arent still playing it.

[brad the fish]

I'm still beating it - but only at 20% ROI, but I'm in the process of switching to 20+2's... so I'm alternating them right now.

[stillnotking]

[ QUOTE ]
The key word in the title is still. Most people who actually beat the party 11 arent still playing it.

[/ QUOTE ]

I beat them, and still play them. I figure if I can sustain 50% ROI 4-tabling $10+1s, and am improving my game, I would rather continue doing that than begin single-tabling $20+2s. I have the bankroll to move up but I am an innately conservative person (at least when it comes to $$ -- I'll fling chips around with abandon).

I've only been playing a few months on this buy-in, though, and I'm sure I will move up at some point.

[Mr_J]

Assuming 1k chips and you double up first hand:

Your EV with 2k chips: 18.44%
Everyone else (1k): 10.19%

[stillnotking]

[ QUOTE ]
VanVeen:

Well, no offense but I played you the other night and your play was terrible. You were pushing all-in first in in the first and 2nd level.. to win what, 30 and 35 chips? You busted out when your AKo was called by KQ and you got outdrawn.

Is that some sort of tactic of yours? Go all-in with a top-hand and hope to get called by a poor player with a lesser hand and then hope to double-up?

[/ QUOTE ]

I do this too, although I usually do it with AA and KK rather than AK, and only if I haven't already folded enough hands to have a tight table image. You will get called more than you think.

As far as the benefit of doubling up early: sure, it doesn't really let you bully the table (because the blinds aren't big enough to be worth stealing), but you still have twice as many chips! Doubling your stack nearly doubles your equity at any limit.