HU OOP on a coordinated board

btspider · #1 06-29-2005, 01:28 AM

Button was running at 30/15 and playing fairly straightforward, just too loose and a bit too passive.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 1 fold, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: (5.40 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

Represent AK and prevent the free card play. I'd fold to a raise.

River: (6.70 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button folds.

Bet-folding once more.

mungpo · #2 06-29-2005, 01:35 AM

I like the turn bet. Nice hand.

dave44 · #3 06-29-2005, 12:48 PM

I see no reason not to 3-bet the flop.

DMBFan23 · #4 06-29-2005, 12:50 PM

IMO the "I'm bet-folding here" or "I'd also call a raise" that adds a lot of value to these hand posts. nicely done.

also I like the hand

btspider · #5 06-29-2005, 04:11 PM

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I see no reason not to 3-bet the flop.

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my main concern was that he could cap and take a free card if i check the turn.

so do you call a cap and lead the turn? what do you do if he raises the turn after a flop cap?

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thx donk, i agree.. i much prefer when ppl talk in terms like bet-fold, bet-call, etc.. rather than simply say "bet street x" and not specify what their intentions following it are.

dave44 · #6 06-29-2005, 04:44 PM

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Button was running at 30/15 and playing fairly straightforward, just too loose and a bit too passive.

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I'm not too worried about this opponent capping for a free card. If he caps, I think I'm check/folding the turn UI.

setjes · #7 06-29-2005, 07:39 PM

I was thinking:
1st play: urs: flop 2BB in, turn 2BB in = 4BB
2nd play: u 3bet, he caps = 4BB

So even when u give him the free card, u still get 4BB in with this play. No difference at first sight.
Now let's say an A or T falls on the turn. With the 2nd play u can now safely bet out and call/reraise when he raises.
So basically, with this play u can get more money in when ur in front. This makes the 2nd play superior IMO.
Correct me if I'm missing things

luckyharr · #8 06-29-2005, 08:01 PM

I like a check/call more on this river. I think you induce a bluff from a missed draw more often than you get a worse hand to call your bet.

Jonny Melon · #9 06-29-2005, 08:05 PM

BT: If the turn is a blank (say 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]), are you donkbetting or Check-raising? I'm inclined to C/R HU, despite the freecard possibility, curious what others would do....

Jon

btspider · #10 06-30-2005, 02:19 AM

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I was thinking:
1st play: urs: flop 2BB in, turn 2BB in = 4BB
2nd play: u 3bet, he caps = 4BB

So even when u give him the free card, u still get 4BB in with this play. No difference at first sight.
Now let's say an A or T falls on the turn. With the 2nd play u can now safely bet out and call/reraise when he raises.
So basically, with this play u can get more money in when ur in front. This makes the 2nd play superior IMO.
Correct me if I'm missing things

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(all hypothetically speaking in terms of him making a free card play here)
one thing this doesn't account for is the fact that he will not take a free card when he hits his draw. that's the value in the free card play for him. on the flop, my equity isn't that great if he has a flush or straight draw with an overcard to my weak top pair. so he doesn't mind too much if the flop is capped if that's his holding. on the turn, our equity will be more greatly defined. if he misses, he checks. if he catches, he makes me pay more than in scenario #1 (where i'm bet-folding the turn). unless i'm somehow check-folding a turned deuce of flushes.