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Old 05-03-2005, 06:17 AM
DavidC DavidC is offline
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Default Re: Was I out of line

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The dealer is out of line--it is his responsibility to make sure everyone acts in order, and his alone.


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Please learn the rules of poker before you state incorrect rules.

From Bob Ciaffone's Rules of Poker (standard cardroom rules)
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11. To retain the right to act, a player must stop the action by calling “time” (or an equivalent word). Failure to stop the action before three or more players have acted behind you may cause you to lose the right to act. You cannot forfeit your right to act if any player in front of you has not acted, only if you fail to act when it legally becomes your turn. Therefore, if you wait for someone whose turn comes before you, and three or more players act behind you, this still does not hinder your right to act.



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According to this, the dealer was perfectly in his right to enforce the rule.

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Old 05-03-2005, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: Was I out of line

I didn't say he was. I just quoted the rules that 90%+ of the poker rooms will and do go by. The dealer enforced the correct rules, end of discussion [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Old 05-03-2005, 07:59 PM
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Where exactly did he makes this complaint?


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Read my post again genius. I never singled anyone out. I just said "people" in general.

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Nothing like flaming people after they've pointed out your mistake, eh? You used an irrelevant generalization that was totally unsubstantiated by the posts in this thread to make a dumb point, then you said it didn't apply to anyone in particular (I guess when you wrote "you guys" you meant "not you guys, other guys"). And then you tried to say that I'm the one who is dumb.

Genius.
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Old 05-03-2005, 10:19 PM
Photoc Photoc is offline
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Well this thread has gone to hell.

Here is my original post:

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I find it funny when people complain they only get 30 hand/hour in a casino but they can get 60+ online. Then a dealer runs the game fast and they are now upset that they
"feel rushed" and have to play faster. You guys can't have it both ways.


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Where does it say guys or you guys?

I never pointed anyone out in particular. if I did, please find it and PM it to me. And yes, 90% of regular players either complain to someone or openly about not getting enough hands out. Lots of those players are the same ones to cry when the dealers try to move the game along to satisfy both theirs and the players needs/wants for game speed.

People just can't have it both ways.
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Old 05-04-2005, 11:05 AM
jmgurgeh jmgurgeh is offline
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Default Re: Was I out of line

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Here is my original post:

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I find it funny when people complain they only get 30 hand/hour in a casino but they can get 60+ online. Then a dealer runs the game fast and they are now upset that they
"feel rushed" and have to play faster. You guys can't have it both ways.


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Where does it say guys or you guys?

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Bolded for convenience. Maybe I've not read as many posts, but I don't see the same volume of complaining about that. My major complaints about B&M poker are actually not at all about speed, and everything about dealers making bad or obvious mistakes (all my B&M so far has been at Foxwoods), which have cost my friends and I a lot more money than slow play. A dealer running a game fast can only speed things up so much with slow players; a dealer running a game well can stop a lot of bad things from happening, like what hapened in the original post.

If you're right about 90% of players complaining about the slowness of B&M without thought to the problems of forcing dealers to rush, I think they're misguided.
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Old 05-04-2005, 12:56 PM
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I stand corrected. Thank you for pointing it out.
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Old 05-04-2005, 01:28 PM
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If you're right about 90% of players complaining about the slowness of B&M without thought to the problems of forcing dealers to rush, I think they're misguided.

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Complaints of the dealer going are very common. I was in the box in LA for my first earthquake out there; I was dealing and it suprised me so I stopped dealing for a couple of seconds and multiple players started yelling about it.
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