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10-13-2005, 10:09 AM
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Crazy Pineapple ruling question at Commerce
This happened quite a few years ago, but has been grinding on me even to today. Game was Crazy Pineapple Hi/Lo 8 or better. $3-6 limits.
Basically called around preflop. I held 44x. Flop came 44x. I led out and was called in 3 places. Discards and then turn was a brick and I led again. All fold. As I fold my cards, another player says.."Hey, he has 3 cards". My hand had already hit the muck. Floorman is called over and it is decided I had three cards(I did, I forgot to discard.) Floorman rules that the pot must be split back amoung all players involved in the pot. Is this the correct ruling? I remember being pretty pissed at the time as everyone had folded to my turn bet. 
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#2
10-13-2005, 11:40 AM
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Re: Crazy Pineapple ruling question at Commerce
Actually, I think the correct ruling is that your hand should be declared dead and the pot should be split amongst everyone who participated BUT you. You have a fouled hand and part of protecting your hand is bringing attention to it immediately...I think you should get nothing (even though I'm sure your action were unintentional, that's what I would rule). It would be like in Hold Em, and you were in the SB. Dealer accidentally gave you three cards. You have to call attention to it IMMEDIATELY. Otherwise you have a fouled hand and can't claim the pot later after you "decide" which two cards you'll be playing.
Jeff
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#3
10-13-2005, 11:45 AM
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Re: Crazy Pineapple ruling question at Commerce
If the floorman correctly detremined that you had three cards then Jeffages response is correct.
IOW, you got a good deal. Sleep well. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] ~ Rick
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10-13-2005, 11:47 AM
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Re: Crazy Pineapple ruling question at Commerce
I agree with Jeffage. Sounds like you didn't mean to do it, but your hand should be dead. This needs to be the rule in order to protect against people doing it intentionally. This is a similar deal to when a player throws his hand down on thet able and one of the cards goes on the floor.
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#5
10-13-2005, 02:57 PM
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what about intent?
The player had quads on the flop. He wasn't trying to get an edge - he clearly intended to discard the non-4. Does that matter?
Played pineapple for the first time last night - it was OK.
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#6
10-13-2005, 03:07 PM
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Re: what about intent?
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The player had quads on the flop. He wasn't trying to get an edge - he clearly intended to discard the non-4. Does that matter? [/ QUOTE ] No. He's not in possesion of a valid hand at showdown. A hand that is clearly fouled like this can't claim the pot. Jeff
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#7
10-13-2005, 03:52 PM
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Re: what about intent?
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The player had quads on the flop. He wasn't trying to get an edge - he clearly intended to discard the non-4. Does that matter? Played pineapple for the first time last night - it was OK. [/ QUOTE ] The problem with this is there is no way to verify that he was dealt 3 cards. It is possible he received 4 cards (maybe one stuck) and he dicarded one when everyone else did.
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