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QJo : Fold or Push?
11s. I struggle with JT/QJ in this spot. help.
***** Hand History for Game 2463483015 ***** 150/300 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14468301) - Tue Aug 02 00:06:42 EDT 2005 Table Table 18333 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button Total number of players : 4 Seat 2: DragonWolf2 (3120) Seat 5: HERO (1770) Seat 7: HONDACRF250X (2105) Seat 8: mrtan1 (1005) HERO posts small blind (75) HONDACRF250X posts big blind (150) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to HERO [ Qs, Jh ] mrtan1 raises (400) to 400 DragonWolf2 folds. HERO??? <font color="red">What do you do?</font> Here's what I did [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] HERO raises (1695) to 1770 HERO is all-In. HONDACRF250X folds.<font color="gray"> mrtan1: crap mrtan1: ill give it a shot</font> <font color="red">(almost got the FE!)</font> mrtan1 calls (605) mrtan1 is all-In. Creating Main Pot with $2160 with mrtan1 Creating Side Pot 1 with $765 with HERO ** Dealing Flop ** : [ 4c, 2d, 5s ] ** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8h ] ** Dealing River ** : [ 9c ] ** Summary ** Main Pot: 2160 | Side Pot 1: 765 Board: [ 4c 2d 5s 8h 9c ] DragonWolf2 balance 3120, didn't bet (folded) HERO balance 765, bet 1770, collected 765, lost -1005 [ Qs Jh ] [ high card queen -- Qs,Jh,9c,8h,5s ] HONDACRF250X balance 1955, lost 150 (folded) mrtan1 balance 2160, bet 1005, collected 2160, net +1155 [ Ac 9h ] [ a pair of nines -- Ac,9h,9c,8h,5s ] |
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Re: QJo : Fold or Push?
You should fold this without even thinking about it. Once you do that regularly you will stop struggling with QJ in this spot. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Re: QJo : Fold or Push?
I agree...sometimes my push button gets really big.
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Re: QJo : Fold or Push?
The short stack is too pot committed to fold there. unless you're sure he would make that move with any two cards, you should fold and wait for a better hand to commit to. its just too likely that you two are sharing cards and you are getting 3:1 dominated.
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Re: QJo : Fold or Push?
I made the move knowing he'd call...I cant believe he almost laid it down. my push was to eliminate the stack to my left.
The question isn't whether this guy will call...its whether the QJ was good to isolate and go HU with raiser...I firmly believe now that I suck, and its not. |
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Re: QJo : Fold or Push?
What exactly do you think he's raising with? Any Ace/King is ahead, decent chance of being dominated, I doubt he's raising with any two (he'd push) and he's going to call 90% of the time. This is a pretty easy fold.
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Re: QJo : Fold or Push?
If you have first in vigorish this is a push, but you are playing QJo in a raised pot...drop this like a hot potato.
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Re: QJo : Fold or Push?
drop it like its hot? thx snoop [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
yeah, we can stick a fork in this one...Im on board with the fold... |
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