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Old 02-04-2005, 06:27 AM
bardolph bardolph is offline
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Default Overcards: Am I Being Too Aggressive Here?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, Button calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, Button folds.

River: (10.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: 12.75 BB
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Old 02-04-2005, 06:41 AM
DeathDonkey DeathDonkey is offline
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Default Re: Overcards: Am I Being Too Aggressive Here?

The turn bet is kind of questionable but you are going to call a bet anyway so I don't hate it. No this looks fine overall.

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Old 02-04-2005, 06:47 AM
CWsports CWsports is offline
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Default Re: Overcards: Am I Being Too Aggressive Here?

I don't like the turn bet. With 4 other opponents it's unlikely that your hand is best and because of the huge pot most are not going to fold to your turn bet.
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Old 02-04-2005, 06:50 AM
PinesHotelCasino PinesHotelCasino is offline
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Default Re: Overcards: Am I Being Too Aggressive Here?

I think your bets were good on all streets.

Pre-flop: a no-brainer must-do.

Flop: position is unfortunate, but with such a ragged flop you've got to lead. Suit coordination is unfortunate, so getting called is possible.

Turn: The flop calls were either overcards, a stupid low pair, or flush draws. In 2 out of 3 cases, the blank Queen helps - it's only the overcard caller who happens to have a Queen in the hole who beats you, and by betting out you'll find out quickly if it's out there (with a raise). The calls are a bummer - the table is obviously playing LP, but that doesn't make your aggression bad, IMO.

The river: score.

Nice hand.
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Old 02-04-2005, 09:37 AM
Benman Benman is offline
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Default Re: Overcards: Am I Being Too Aggressive Here?

I personally don't like betting mere overcards into four opponents. Two opponents yes, maybe three with low cards on the board, but not four. Remember, overcards are nothing but a 6-out draw to one pair.
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Old 02-04-2005, 09:42 AM
rannerboy rannerboy is offline
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Default Re: Overcards: Am I Being Too Aggressive Here?

Hmmm... I don't like this situation first to act with 4 opponents in on the flop. A bet is not likely to fold many people since most will hang on to overcards, small paris and gutshots. I would have checked hoping for a late position bet so I could check-raise and thereby thinning the field. If you manage to get it HU I think you have a good chance to take it down with a turn bet even if you don't hit you A or K. This because the LP bettor could have bet the flop on a steal attempt with overcards and will now maybe fold to a turn bet.

By betting the flop (and folding noone) I guess you somehow feel obligated to bet the turn as well? I know I have that problem sometimes and it usually only gets me raised on the turn while the pot is getting pretty big forcing me to call down...
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