Babcock / Isiah

This trade by itself isnt that bad for the Knicks, although Isiah obviously is takin a big risk. The biggest problem with this trade is that it hurts New Yorks already horrible cap situation. In 2007 Lebron becomes a free agent and you can be sure that his sponsors will want him in New York, and that he will want to be in New York because he will get paid even more by his sponsors. In the NBA, a team can not sign a free agent from another team if they are over the cap, except for the mid-level exemption. Therefore the Knicks, who were already in a monster hole as it was are now even worse off, plus they traded their only bit of cap relief- Tim Thomas.

[Huskiez]

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Therefore the Knicks, who were already in a monster hole as it was are now even worse off, plus they traded their only bit of cap relief- Tim Thomas.

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Nah, they got back Antonio Davis, who makes about as much, and comes off the books this year. So does Penny.

I think this Curry signing might put them over the cap in 2007 though.

the trade overall hurt their cap immensely because thomas contract>davis contract plus they got curry. Even if they hadnt done the trade they would still have had trouble clearing enough room for 07, now they have no chance.

[Brad22]

Isiah is definitely a complete idiot of a GM. The Marbury trade was good work. He should have stopped after that.

[brettbrettr]

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The Marbury trade was good work.

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Marbury sucks.

[Brad22]

Marbury does not suck at all, here is the deal:

-He probably has issues, which has led to a number of trades over his career.
-He is definitely not a pure PG, but puts up great numbers for the position regardless.
-Questionable leadership skills



Larry Brown usually gets the most from players, and it'll be interesting to see how he is used this year.

[morello]

Uh, what?

He gave up scraps for Curry. Tim Thomas is suddenly "so much"? Are you kidding me?

I know everyone loves to bash Isiah, but he has increased the talent of his club greatly. And brought in Larry Brown..who is regarded as one of the best coaches in the league.

As posted in the Curry thread:

then
PG Ward
PG Eisley
PG FWilliams
SG Houston
SF Anderson
SF KVH
PF Weatherspoon
PF Harrington
PF Sweetney
PF McDyess
PF/C KThomas
C DMutombo
C MDoleac

now:
PG Marbury
PG NRobinson
PG/SG JCrawford
SG Hardaway
SG Houston
G/F QRichardson
G/F Ariza
F Lee
PF Rose
PF/C CFrye
PF ADavis
PF MoTaylor
C JJames
C ECurry

You're telling me that isn't a significant improvement?


btw, Babcock is terrible. It's one thing to draft Arajuo 8th overall, ahead of Igoudala and other quality players. And sure, Charlie V was probably drafted 15 spots too early..but the worst thing Babcock did was sit on his hands and let Donyell Marshall play out his contract last year when teams were willing to give us SOMETHING for him. Picks, cash, prospects, whatever. And oh yeah, he traded Vince Carter for a bucket of fried chicken.

[Zurvan]

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And oh yeah, he traded Vince Carter for a bucket of fried chicken.

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Too bad he didn't get chicken. At least that's useful.

[Pudge714]

At the time I didn't think the Vince trade was particularly bad because I figured the draft picks would be useful. Unfortunately I neglected the fact that Babcock is a completely incompetent drafter.