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12-01-2005, 01:11 PM
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Re: You LRR me, so I CRR you back!
I would not 3-bet the flop because I want to keep UTG in the lead. If you hit your hand, you can then check-raise the field. The chance to get 2 extra BB with 95%+ equity is better than 2 extra SB with 56% equity IMO.
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#2
12-01-2005, 01:17 PM
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Re: You LRR me, so I CRR you back!
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I would not 3-bet the flop because I want to keep UTG in the lead. If you hit your hand, you can then check-raise the field. The chance to get 2 extra BB with 95%+ equity is better than 2 extra SB with 56% equity IMO. [/ QUOTE ] You don't think the turn ever gets checked through? Also, if I do check raise the turn in a protected pot, UTG may fold, and I might not get his BB. Furthermore, this disguises my hand, so I may induce extra action. I am not sure if it is correct, but I sure liked it, and hope it is [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#3
12-01-2005, 10:12 PM
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Re: You LRR me, so I CRR you back!
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[ QUOTE ] I would not 3-bet the flop because I want to keep UTG in the lead. If you hit your hand, you can then check-raise the field. The chance to get 2 extra BB with 95%+ equity is better than 2 extra SB with 56% equity IMO. [/ QUOTE ] You don't think the turn ever gets checked through? Also, if I do check raise the turn in a protected pot, UTG may fold, and I might not get his BB. Furthermore, this disguises my hand, so I may induce extra action. I am not sure if it is correct, but I sure liked it, and hope it is [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] The turn may get checked through, but you also may not hit your hand. Also, calling on the flop and check-raising the turn gives you more bluffing equity IMO (it looks like you slowplayed a monster).
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#4
12-01-2005, 10:21 PM
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Re: You LRR me, so I CRR you back!
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I would not 3-bet the flop because I want to keep UTG in the lead. If you hit your hand, you can then check-raise the field. The chance to get 2 extra BB with 95%+ equity is better than 2 extra SB with 56% equity IMO. [/ QUOTE ] You don't think the turn ever gets checked through? Also, if I do check raise the turn in a protected pot, UTG may fold, and I might not get his BB. Furthermore, this disguises my hand, so I may induce extra action. I am not sure if it is correct, but I sure liked it, and hope it is [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] The turn may get checked through, but you also may not hit your hand. Also, calling on the flop and check-raising the turn gives you more bluffing equity IMO (it looks like you slowplayed a monster). [/ QUOTE ] I seriously doubt I am winning this pot by having my opponents fold.
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#5
12-01-2005, 10:26 PM
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Re: You LRR me, so I CRR you back!
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I would not 3-bet the flop because I want to keep UTG in the lead. If you hit your hand, you can then check-raise the field. The chance to get 2 extra BB with 95%+ equity is better than 2 extra SB with 56% equity IMO. [/ QUOTE ] You don't think the turn ever gets checked through? Also, if I do check raise the turn in a protected pot, UTG may fold, and I might not get his BB. Furthermore, this disguises my hand, so I may induce extra action. I am not sure if it is correct, but I sure liked it, and hope it is [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] The turn may get checked through, but you also may not hit your hand. Also, calling on the flop and check-raising the turn gives you more bluffing equity IMO (it looks like you slowplayed a monster). [/ QUOTE ] I think that talking about fold equity in a hand with a limp reraise is pretty silly. Either the guy has a big pair that he is representing OR he plays his hand like he has it so getting folds will be uncommon.
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#6
12-01-2005, 03:05 PM
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Re: You LRR me, so I CRR you back!
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12-01-2005, 03:14 PM
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Re: You LRR me, so I CRR you back!
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Second, I think the flop equity is so large that you're giving up too much. The hero has 12 outs, he's a 1.2:1 favorite to win by the river. By 3-betting the flop he's getting in an extra BB, of which the hero nets .833 given his odds of winning. So, 3 betting the flop = +.83BB [/ QUOTE ] I'm pretty sure this is flawed. You are giving hero 83% equity, which he doesn't have.
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#8
12-01-2005, 03:18 PM
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Re: You LRR me, so I CRR you back!
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[ QUOTE ] Second, I think the flop equity is so large that you're giving up too much. The hero has 12 outs, he's a 1.2:1 favorite to win by the river. By 3-betting the flop he's getting in an extra BB, of which the hero nets .833 given his odds of winning. So, 3 betting the flop = +.83BB [/ QUOTE ] I'm pretty sure this is flawed. You are giving hero 83% equity, which he doesn't have. [/ QUOTE ] Argh, yea, 1/1.2 = 83%, but it should be 1/2.2 = 45%. Flop bet is still better EV depend on how you see the odds of a check through or 4-flush hurting you, but it's much closer. I suck so I deleted my post.
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