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Old 09-07-2005, 07:48 AM
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Marbury v. Madison
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:34 AM
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Default Re: Supreme Court Decision That \"Sticks in your Craw\" the Most

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Wickard v. Filburn.

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Wickard has been a precedent for so many other poor decisions that the cascade effect has to be considered.
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:45 AM
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Wickard v. Filburn.

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Wickard has been a precedent for so many other poor decisions that the cascade effect has to be considered.

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What a bunch of Potheads we have on this forum.

You guys are really just upset at Gonzales v. Raich. Damn the government for not letting you grow pot for your "personal use."
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Old 09-07-2005, 10:05 AM
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Last years Hiibel decision. In the twisted game of redefining language, the Court essentially stated that "reasonable suspicion" and "probable cause" were the same. Link.
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Old 09-07-2005, 11:35 AM
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Truly enlightening, appreciated and my thanks as well. Don't feel compelled to stop at this juncture though.
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Old 09-07-2005, 01:53 PM
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Wickard v. Filburn.

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Wickard has been a precedent for so many other poor decisions that the cascade effect has to be considered.

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What a bunch of Potheads we have on this forum.

You guys are really just upset at Gonzales v. Raich. Damn the government for not letting you grow pot for your "personal use."

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Yea, we all must've missed class when they told us that cannabis users are the lowest form of life. Too bad or we would've chosen much more dangerous, legal drugs like alcohol and tobacco instead.
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Old 09-07-2005, 07:38 PM
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Wickard v. Filburn.

Wickard is one of the fundamental pillars of law that continues to justify the undending drug war which is an atrocity against our freedoms.

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Just so that everyone here is clear: Wickard is a Commerce Clause case, not a drug war case.

The drug war didn't even exist at the time Wickard came down.

The labor movement, however, DID exist -- and if you want to understand why so many "conservatives" absolutely HATE Wickard v. Filburn, you need to look at it as it relates to the labor movement and its FDR-era victories.

Or, to put it another way : if you want to attack the drug war, there are a thousand easier ways to do it then by trying to strip the entire federal government of its Commerce Clause authority. BUT : if your actual goal is to destroy New Deal labor reforms, there is almost NO easier way than by attacking Wickard and its associated cases (upon which those reforms rest). If you look at it in that light, it's really not too hard to figure out which one is the true goal.


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Old 09-07-2005, 11:22 PM
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Wickard v. Filburn.

Wickard is one of the fundamental pillars of law that continues to justify the undending drug war which is an atrocity against our freedoms.

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Just so that everyone here is clear: Wickard is a Commerce Clause case, not a drug war case.

The drug war didn't even exist at the time Wickard came down.

The labor movement, however, DID exist -- and if you want to understand why so many "conservatives" absolutely HATE Wickard v. Filburn, you need to look at it as it relates to the labor movement and its FDR-era victories.

Or, to put it another way : if you want to attack the drug war, there are a thousand easier ways to do it then by trying to strip the entire federal government of its Commerce Clause authority. BUT : if your actual goal is to destroy New Deal labor reforms, there is almost NO easier way than by attacking Wickard and its associated cases (upon which those reforms rest). If you look at it in that light, it's really not too hard to figure out which one is the true goal.


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And if you support BOTH ending the drug war AND eliminating New Deal nonsense, Wickard v. Filburn is easily one of the worst cases of the century.

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Old 09-07-2005, 11:24 PM
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Default Re: Supreme Court Decision That \"Sticks in your Craw\" the Most

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Wickard v. Filburn.

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Wickard has been a precedent for so many other poor decisions that the cascade effect has to be considered.

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What a bunch of Potheads we have on this forum.

You guys are really just upset at Gonzales v. Raich. Damn the government for not letting you grow pot for your "personal use."

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As a federalist you of all posters should be aware that Wickard v. Filburn is your nemesis. Even though without you might have to live in a nation where some states allow their citizens to grow and smoke pot.

I don't know, undoing the total devastation of most of our civil rights might not be worth it if it means we have live in a world where some US states have legalized pot... hmmmmmmm

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Old 09-07-2005, 11:34 PM
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The medical marijuana case and the eminent domain case. They were wrong on both.
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