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#1
09-20-2005, 08:32 PM
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10/20: Unexpected river action
Villain is 23/10/1 over not many hands. Do I call or reraise this?
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls, UTG calls. Flop: (13.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, UTG calls. Turn: (7.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls. River: (9.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ...</font>. 
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#3
09-20-2005, 08:35 PM
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Re: 10/20: Unexpected river action
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I 3 bet here every time. Do you think a 23/10/1 button would 3 bet you with QT preflop? Maybe he would to isolate you but UTG already called. You have to 3 bet this river. [/ QUOTE ] Button is long gone, I'm dealing with UTG now who limped and called 2 more cold (and then one more again). Edit: Gotcha!
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#4
09-20-2005, 08:36 PM
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Re: 10/20: Unexpected river action
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[ QUOTE ] I 3 bet here every time. Do you think a 23/10/1 button would 3 bet you with QT preflop? Maybe he would to isolate you but UTG already called. You have to 3 bet this river. [/ QUOTE ] Button is long gone, I'm dealing with UTG now who limped and called 2 more cold (and then one more again). [/ QUOTE ] I misread your initial post oops....I still 3 bet this river though.
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#5
09-20-2005, 08:42 PM
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Re: 10/20: Unexpected river action
You're behind to T8 & QT. T8 is unlikly due to preflop. So, you're behind to QT.
You are ahead of KJ (maybe 7J)... and that's about it? It looks like a call to me. In the heat of the battle it is hard not to 3-bet sometimes, but I think calling is corrrect.
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#7
09-20-2005, 09:11 PM
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Re: 10/20: Unexpected river action
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[ QUOTE ] You are ahead of KJ (maybe 7J)... and that's about it? [/ QUOTE ] Maybe K9 too...what about about a weirdly played set? [/ QUOTE ] It could be K9 as well, but almost always that hand would make a move on the turn. Could be a set as well, but very unlikly. I think the likly hands (KJ, QT) will be what Villain holds most of the time. QT: 16 combinations KJ: 3 combinations Even if you add some conbinations to the KJ-side to conpensate for all possible unlikly holdings you are a far way from the desired 32 combinations.
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#8
09-20-2005, 09:14 PM
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Re: 10/20: Unexpected river action
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Even if you add some conbinations to the KJ-side to conpensate for all possible unlikly holdings you are a far way from the desired 32 combinations. [/ QUOTE ] That makes more sense yea. I guess it is closer to a call then. Where do you get 32 from by the way? Cause when you're ahead you'll win 1 more BB and when you're behind you'll lose 2?
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#9
09-20-2005, 09:17 PM
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Re: 10/20: Unexpected river action
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[ QUOTE ] Even if you add some conbinations to the KJ-side to conpensate for all possible unlikly holdings you are a far way from the desired 32 combinations. [/ QUOTE ] That makes more sense yea. I guess it is closer to a call then. Where do you get 32 from by the way? Cause when you're ahead you'll win 1 more BB and when you're behind you'll lose 2? [/ QUOTE ] Exactly. 16*2 = 32
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