60-120 Live TT Hand

Lawrence Ng · #1 10-14-2005, 03:28 PM

Been a while since I've posted a hand up, and I apologize ahead of time if this seems a little boring.

Game is live, it's late at night around 2:30 a.m. and it's 7 handed and I've been playing for just over an hour. It's also a full Kill game and right now button has the kill.

I'm in the hijack with TT. Folded to me and I raise. Cutoff folds, button folds, SB calls, BB folds.

SB is a new player I have never seen before, he's never seen me. He's a young kid, raises with a variety of hands pre-flop and is quite a good post flop player.

His buddy in the BB is a gambooler and they've both been shooting around in their hands HU, and the kid is showing some pretty decent hands.

His post-flop play is pretty straightforward and I have not seen him try to pull anything crazy other than the stuff he does HU with his buddy, but he's quite loose preflop and has been protecting his blinds. He's also stuck over 1k in the last hour.

Flop comes 8-8-3 rainbow.

He checks, I bet, he check-raises, I call.

At this point in time, the range of hands I put him on are Ax (possibly A3), possibly a smaller pocket pair (QQ and below, yes most players don't 3-bet pocket pairs OOP in this game including QQ). Of course there is always the chance he has an 8.

The range of hands I think that the kid puts me on - Ax and pocket pairs of course. He won't put me on an 8, and obviously a 3. I know he knows that I don't play that loose especially given his buddy is gambooler BB who rarely folds his blind (well..he did fold this hand).

Turn is a 3.

Kid fires another bet.

My move?

Lawrence

daryn · #2 10-14-2005, 03:32 PM

so this hand is 120/240? or it's a 30/60 game and now you're playing a kill pot?

jayheaps · #3 10-14-2005, 03:35 PM

3-bet the flop. then call down the turn if he bets again. if he checks, bet.

Cancuk · #4 10-14-2005, 11:04 PM

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so this hand is 120/240? or it's a 30/60 game and now you're playing a kill pot?

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I know the game...it's 30/60 and they're playing a kill pot.

daryn · #5 10-14-2005, 03:34 PM

i would have 3 bet the flop instantly.. why didn't you?

i like a turn bet

etizzle · #6 10-14-2005, 03:46 PM

do you mean turn raise?

daryn · #7 10-14-2005, 04:20 PM

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do you mean turn raise?

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oh.. whoops

i guess i just like a call then

bobdibble · #8 10-14-2005, 08:12 PM

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do you mean turn raise?

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oh.. whoops

i guess i just like a call then

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3-betting the flop would have made the turn play quite differently... but given where we are in the hand with the actual flop play, I have a question about Daryn's turn call...

Why do you like a call v.s. this villain rather than raising for a free showdown?

DpR · #9 10-14-2005, 09:00 PM

If, after raising the turn, you have an opportuniy for a free showdown, do you want to take it?

daryn · #10 10-14-2005, 10:57 PM

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do you mean turn raise?

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oh.. whoops

i guess i just like a call then

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3-betting the flop would have made the turn play quite differently... but given where we are in the hand with the actual flop play, I have a question about Daryn's turn call...

Why do you like a call v.s. this villain rather than raising for a free showdown?

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if i'm raising the turn it's not for a free showdown. thinking about it now i agree with andyfox in that if he has an 8 so be it (why would he bet out with it?) and if he has an ace he's probably calling down, also you don't give a free shot to overcards.

although, if he has K high like a KQ though you would want to just call if you thought that he would bet the river on a bluff if he misses. he might even be in much worse shape. i'm sticking with a call if he will fire away on the river regardless.