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Old 09-17-2005, 01:57 AM
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are retarded!

so i have the tigers +215 tonight and its tied in extra innings. #9 hitter leads off with a single, bringing up polanco. whats he do? of course. the sacrifice. WTF! let the guy hit you ass clown.

i know its over after that. 1st and 2nd nobody out for the angels now.

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Old 09-17-2005, 02:27 AM
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It's not THAT bad a decision.

Chances of 1 or more runs with man on 1st, no outs: .416
Chances of 1 or more runs with man on 2nd, 1 out: .407

The loss cost me money too.
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Old 09-17-2005, 03:03 AM
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ken macha.

what was he doing with 2 outfielders? its a pretty obscure aspect of baseball game theory, i have no idea about it. but this doesnt seem wise at all.

also, walking the bases full. no. bad idea. especially, especially when the relievers out there are not premium guys. also its probably a mistake when the guy youre bringing up is manny ramirez, i dont care if hes not having a stellar year.



edit, more on point one

im sure the chance of cutting a ball off that the 5th infielder provides is much smaller than the chance of a fly ball. remember, there was a man on 3rd with one out, and if there are two outfielders it does not have to be much of a fly to get him in.

im pretty sure that when they switched to the 5 man infield there was a runner on 1st with 1 out. i would think if you are going to the 5 man infield you would want the double play to be in order. just seems like macha screwed it up bigtime.
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Old 09-17-2005, 03:15 AM
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It's not THAT bad a decision.

Chances of 1 or more runs with man on 1st, no outs: .416
Chances of 1 or more runs with man on 2nd, 1 out: .407

The loss cost me money too.

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yeah, but that .09 gives me an excuse to bitch [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 09-17-2005, 03:44 AM
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I think the idea for the 5 infielders/2 outfielders goes something like this:

infielders have to play in, to prevent the runner from scoring at home. They cover less ground this way. Despite the slightly smaller field, the decreased distance from home plate gives them less time to react to the ball.

Most fly balls to the outfield are going to win the game anyways. The outfielders don't have to play as deep, so they don't have to cover as much ground. The 5th infielder, playing around 2nd base should cover all shallow flies to center that could have stopped the guy on 3rd from tagging anyway.

He might actually have been on to something.


Walking Ortiz to get to Manny though was a HUGE sign of respect. I'm also certain it was a terrible move. Who else in the league would get walked in that position with Manny Ramirez on deck?
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Old 09-17-2005, 06:23 AM
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Chances of 1 or more runs with man on 1st, no outs: .416
Chances of 1 or more runs with man on 2nd, 1 out: .407


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Does this take the batting averages into account?

Polanco (.332) bunted, with Inge (.262) and Shelton (.298) coming up.

Trammel has been taking a lot of heat in this town, i'm still on the fence.
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Old 09-17-2005, 04:19 PM
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Chances of 1 or more runs with man on 1st, no outs: .416
Chances of 1 or more runs with man on 2nd, 1 out: .407


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Does this take the batting averages into account?

Polanco (.332) bunted, with Inge (.262) and Shelton (.298) coming up.

Trammel has been taking a lot of heat in this town, i'm still on the fence.

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yeah, i had the same question. how was the overall speed of the kid on base? maybe a steal is a good option. i mean, your on the road against a better team.... i dunno
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Old 09-18-2005, 12:52 AM
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no, it's just the average for all teams this year.

There are times that it is good to bunt - but they're pretty rare and usually involve moving the guy from 2nd to 3rd (always with no outs).
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Old 09-18-2005, 12:55 AM
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Bonds, A-Rod, Vlad, off the top of my head...
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Old 09-18-2005, 02:05 AM
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had the tigers again [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

okay, enough whining for one year.
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